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Knox case poised to set powerful precedent in international court cases

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David Delgado//The Daily Cougar

Amanda Knox was sentenced to 28 1/2 years in prison after her second conviction in Italy in the stabbing of her roommate, Meredith Kercher, when they were students in 2007. It remains to be seen whether the Italian government will seek the extradition of Knox from the United States.

Kercher’s body was found in her apartment, which she shared with Knox in November 2007 in Perugia, Italy. Knox and her ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito were arrested in connection with the murder. Another suspect, Rudy Guede, was extradited from Germany in connection with Kercher’s murder and remains the only person in jail. However, aspects of the crime remain unaccounted for.

The trial began in 2009 in Perugia.

The DNA evidence used in the prosecution of Knox and Raffaele Sollecito was deemed unreliable by an independent report requested by Italy’s appeals court in Jun. 29, 2011. Knox and Sollecito were released from jail in October, after the appeals court overturned their murder convictions. Knox returned to her hometown in Seattle four years after her arrest.

In March 2013, Italy’s highest criminal court ordered a retrial for Knox and Sollecito after reversing the appeals court’s reversal of their convictions.

Having already spent four years in Italian prison after the first murder conviction, Knox said she would never willingly return to Italy. The Italian courts would have to rule an appeal before they can seek to extradite Knox.

A portion of the Italian population was upset at the fact that Knox refused to return for the latest trial when Sollecito returned to Italy to fight his new murder conviction.

The bigger question isn’t whether Knox is guilty. If this case played out in an American court with an American jury, the results would likely be different. Questions were brought up about the DNA evidence.

Judge Alessandro Nencini, the judge who declared Knox and Sollecito guilty in the murder of Kercher, is being investigated for ethical violations in relation to the trial. The investigation called into question his ability to be unbiased.

Nencini spoke out to the media, saying the motive for the crime was because Knox is a “she-devil.”

Nencini later apologized for speaking out, but typically in the Italian judicial code of ethics, it is prohibited to comment from the bench for weeks after following a verdict.

The most current copy of the extradition treaty between the U.S. and Italy does not list double jeopardy within the requesting country as a viable cause to deny extradition.

American lawyers can claim that the extradition of Knox would be unconstitutional, but a requesting country reserves acquittal and enters a judgment of conviction.

The majority of Italians believe Knox is guilty, so it would be difficult to be granted an intercession by the U.S. Secretary of State. It would be an incredible risk to protect an American citizen from a prison sentence set abroad.

In 2003, the Italian court convicted 23 CIA operatives of kidnapping in absentia. However, Italy never formally sought the extradition of these operatives because of pressure from the American government.

The United States government seeks the extradition of more people than any other country in the world. If the U.S. decides to deny Knox’s extradition, other countries might use the decision against future requests in the extradition of American citizens.

If anything is to come out of this long process in the courts, it will be the final outcome that sets an example for similar court cases in the future. While Knox waits for everything to play out, this case demonstrates how the judicial system can react to any error. The last thing anyone would want is to put away someone who is innocent; the same goes for letting someone guilty walk free.

Opinion columnist Gemrick Curtom is a public relations junior and may be reached at [email protected]

154 Comments

  • So she should do 28 and a half just to keep things good with Italy? Maybe a precedent needs to be set that you can’t find our citizens innocent and send them home for 3 years and then change your mind and start all over. Hopefully the European Court will get a hold of this at some point and toss the whole thing out and make all others rulings irrelevant.

  • In my opinion, Gemrick, it doesn’t have to be a constitutional issue of double-jeopardy. I think Amanda Knox’s greatest protection can be found under article X of our extradition treaty with Italy, which provides that a magistrate produce a case summary showing clear and unbiased reasoning behind the conviction. I just don’t see how they will be able to convincingly make this case appear fair and unbiased to reasonable eyes. That alone would seem to make denial of extradition a slam-dunk. Unfortunately, your observations about the international political considerations are all too valid, and raise the possibility of Knox becoming a sacrificial lamb to political expediency, legal protections notwithstanding. Too many Knox supporters are ignoring this danger (I often get ridiculed for even bringing it up), and we need more people like you writing pieces like this to raise public awareness of this potential pitfall, and serve warning to our government that the American public is watching them on this every bit as vigilantly as the international community.

    • Hi Even, Sorry to contact you on this old thread – the other is obviously being spied on! Have you seen the GR thread by K Pruett. D posted a comment to G a few days ago asking her to stop posting about SM/SS. Other than the normal comments from SFT and G ignoring / reporting them, nothing is different. He threatens to ‘out’ myself now! Good luck with that after the complete mess they have made with G! I think he/SFT have read the posts regarding the connection between miss MPD & the mention of Laura. D was panicking. Anyway I spoke to G saying it was best to agree to some type of “truce” which G replied (in her normal manner!) agreeing to and now SFT has waded in and it has blown up again. I am sure G will proceed with contacting L after reading the b/s SFT has posted regarding the HR thread. She said she was hardly on that thread and had to catch up via a friend. As you know she was all over that thread in various guises. She was at least 4 different id’s on there, I know how she posts and some comments she has made direct to me using SFT she has repeated from this thread whilst using different id’s. You need to see her comments to believe how she has twisted that thread. I find her hypocripsy stunning, you have her mails where she has been planning and conniving, admitting what she has been up to and even admitting her involvement on that IP thread to Cali. Any sane person can see by reading the thread who was attacking who and who is now lying. You will need to go back quite a few pages where G is arguing with justme (who also posted on HR). G thinks it is SS/SM. Justme has said using his “investigative skills” he has seen photographs of my sister. Highly unlikely but a creepy thing to say. I do wonder, just by defending my sister, if all this harassment by others has left them feeling good about themselves. I had a wonderful holiday, but the barn felt a lot larger as my parents were not with us (sadly my mum was in hospital in London undergoing a procedure to help her heart after her recent HA and has also had a biopsy taken from a mass that has been found – results in a weeks time) – usually my parents come with us. We have an old converted barn with swimming pool which we used to go to on a regular basis before I was too poorly, so this was our first visit for a while, on reading GR (when able to get an internet connection!) and seeing this poop starting up again has bought on a few flashback episodes and panic attacks. I saw my consultant today and he has prescribed medication to help when I have a panic attack or F/B episode. I have had side effects with the new arthritis medication so am switching from tabs to injections that I or my husband can administer – apparently less side effects with jabs. Had blood taken today to see how my liver is reacting with the new medication as this is a known effect. Nomore steroid injections for now as the consultant is hoping the new medication will help before needing to go onto steroids at a young age as he said I will need them in the future and again the side effects are not good ! Sorry rattling on but I know you understand about medication and its side effects – it is a juggle, I know, but I think quality of life over quantity. I am pleased Cali is going ahead with your idea – please keep me informed when it comes into practice and the positive effects its has 🙂 I love the way you are always so many jumps ahead with your strategic thinking than most people. It is a great skill to have. I feel I have lost some of my “forward thinking” skills, my memory is bad as well as concentration. I try to improve it via reading – I hope it has some effects, as it is frustrating. I very rarely post anymore although I did leave a few comments to Corvello on the Examiner thread. I know this is so mean to say but he is a bit dumb and so many of his comments seem like they are being posted by a schoolchild, in fact my twins are not as immature as many of his comments. I have replied to a few of his comments previously and get called a sl.u.t or wh/o.r.e in his reply. I will mention the cousin idea to G, I notice S has not used this for a while, maybe realising what a loon she sounds? I wonder why D clears up her messes for her (same as with BM)? I personally feel it was S who asked D to make the post – I think she has seen my comment regarding SM/SS and panicked at the thought of any of it being posted (especially the L saga). She has loved dishing trash out but cannot take it. I would never post anyones details, but just her knowing that could happen had the desired affect of her/them asking for a truce. I will recheck that thread as I would not be surprised if any posts have vanished – I did copy D’s original message to G if any have gone. Have either of them contacted you ? S again has said that you gave Joe **** her name, which I know you did not. She gave it to him herself and we have her admitting it. Let me know what you think? Just best ignored? Speak soon, A.

      • “I think he/SFT have read the posts regarding the connection between miss MPD & the mention of Laura”. Alive, you lost me on that one. Who is Miss MPD?

        Anyway, I’ve weighed in on the thread (though apparently too late to keep your sister from deleting her account), and I didn’t hold back. I straightened out all her misrepresentations, reminded her that a lot of her dirt is still in my inbox, and hinted at the auction thing. I C&Pd the comment, just in case it gets deleted, but either way, she’ll read it, and either you and Ghislane will get a brief respite from her insanity, or the dymanic duo will both be all over me shortly. If that happens, please remember that I don’t take these people on in real time. I may also attempt to persuade hmh not to let himself get drawn into this, now that Sophie has deleted her account, and he’s softened his tone with me. He clearly doesn’t know the whole six-month story, nor does he strike me as ready to participate in it.

        Justme debuted on that old CNN board, and was the first one who tried to interest me in that IA board about your sister. When I balked, in somewhat snide terms, she threw a tantrum, and the exchange was deleted. She also claimed to be a black lesbian, who was bullied as a child. (Unfortunately, the exchange was deleted). My next encounter with Justme was on that Examiner thread that Liz finally had to close down. Justme was arguing support for Knox by referring people to all the petitions at changedotorg to block her extradition. What Justme didn’t seem to realize was that A) the petitions at change don’t even make it to the Federal Government. (The proper place to petition the administration is at wethepeople), and B) while a few of them acquired the 150 signatures needed to make them searchable in the government’s database, not a single one got the 100,000 signatures needed to obligate a response from the administration. In other words, all Justme was doing was drawing attention to all of Knox’s failed petitions on the wrong site, which tells me he’s way uninformed. I recognized, and commented to Justme, but he didn’t seem to recognize me, so you might compare the number of comments in the Justme profile on that HR board to the current Justme. It wouldn’t surprise me if one of them “borrowed” his username for their mischief. Either way, the Changedotorg thing tells me that Justme is simply too stupid to be a serious threat, no matter who he/she is.

        I had a brief exchange with Brian on Ground Report a few weeks ago, but he never got abusive, so we haven’t had it out. From what I’ve observed, he seems to think I’m a right winger, thinks Fox News supports Amanda Knox, and runs around calling people names, and threatening to shoot them. I also watched Johnny Yen goad him once by identifying him as Lisa Marie Basile, at which point Brian offered up his real Facebook page to prove his identity, which I thought was really stupid, but it was too late for me to do anything about it. Why are you even wasting your time worrying about him?

        This is the only part I’m going to edit out of this message, but I do save all my email notifications. The bad news is that some of them have disappeared from my outlook account (such as the one from “Laura” thanking me for trying to help her get her comment removed, and assuring me that she’d “learned her lesson”, which is what sent me right back to that thread to see that Dopre and “Peter” were down in the threads having it out with you and Ghislane, and Laura’s dead son was once again being used as leverage. The last time I checked, the one where Speak admitted she was involved with that NP_aka Jaya mess was still there, but I haven’t had time to sift through my inbox for the rest. It’s also possible that what may have been lost in my inbox might still be in MY Disqus. Hopefully, though, the warning alone will be enough to put her in check for a while.

        The other bad news is that I tried looking up Laura again in Lafayette, NY, but she no longer shows up, and every Google search I try fails to yield anything about her, or crime that claimed Wesley’s life, so I’m truly puzzled about that one.

          • I didn’t get the impression he was panicking, Alive. It looked more to me like he was throwing one of his tantrums (probably because this is the first time I’ve openly defended Ghislane), which is why I likened him to a toddler. Clearly, he hasn’t been brought up to speed on just how damming her notes to me are, and when I referred to them as “love notes”, I was being sarcastic. Most of them were angry, and spiteful. As I pointed out, she changed her last name from one comment to the other, and the post appearing on that board has been altered from its original form in my inbox. These are the kinds of little tricks that trip her up, and this was one more nail in the coffin of her online credibility.

            The only thing I’ll say about her real world identity is that she can’t possibly be married. Who could live with such a vindictive and duplicitous b*tch? If anything, she’s probably a widow, living off the life insurance policy of a husband who “died in an unfortunate accident”.

          • Hi, Alive. I’m sure you saw Speak’s reply to me on Ground report last week. I haven’t responded, because although she might claim to not care about the auction, she knows (or thinks she knows) the extent to which those posts can damage her, and so far, I haven’t seen her bothering you or Ghislane with that FF nonsense. In fact, except for that Enstarz thread, there doesn’t seem to have been any real AK action on Disqus at all. If I missed one, please direct me to it.

            I truly hope she hasn’t ignored my warning, but if she is still stalking your sister as “Fiona”, I’ve fashioned the “auction” idea into something I can assure you she won’t like. The problem is that it’s something I don’t like it either, and hope I don’t have to go through with it.

            Speak may have been behaving, but I noticed Dopre spewing out that FF business on that Enstarz thread today. I’ve actually dreamed up a very non-abusive way to use that “topic” to possibly deliver a devastating blow to IA itself (if we can pull it off under their radar), but I’ll let you update me on what’s been going on first.

            • Hi Even, hope you are well 🙂 I did see Speaks last reply, trying to laugh them (her messages) off and as normal twisting the situation. I have not been posting, or even looking too much for the last week or so, but did see the comments to my sister by D, still calling her a criminal and accusing her of being a thief and saying she should be in jail!! How do you get someone like that to stop spreading lies? My sister knows it winds them up by mentioning her life style, which is why she responds in this manner. I told her last night it is again, best to ignore him. I have been viewing twitter and dopey seems to be very short tempered over the last few days and is insulting nearly everyone he comes across – using the same insults on multiple posters ie they need mental help or they should be in jail. He seems pretty stressed! It did make me laugh as someone on twitter called him a coward for not speaking out on IIP regarding the abuse the Kercher family receive on there. I’m pleased Sollecitos begging pot has been stopped at last, I emailed Gofundme and complained when he first opened his account and received a pathetic excuse as a reply. My sister and Odysseus had him banned from the new site he started on, and then also had the following account an FOA member had set up on his behalf, banned, too. I was also pleased Paypal closed him down. I wonder if they will take Knox’s a/c down also?

              I found it a little odd that S&D appeared to have gone silent – it makes me wonder what they are up too 😉 It is disgraceful that the thread has been able to run on IIP, so anyway of using it against them would be worthwhile. I noticed dopey nearly always mentions myself when he posts to my sister which I find odd, we are two separate people, we do not follow or live each others lives, yet he groups us as one, even when I am not posting, saying to G that she identified her and myself when she started posting, which is b/s. For one, she would and has never id’d herself or myself, especially as she started posting for at least 6months to a year before I did! Why would someone name a sister who was not posting at the time and had no interest in the case at the time? Does he not realise how silly remarks like that sound? I am intrigued by your auction and IA ideas 🙂

              Sorry not being in contact soon, like I said I have not been on here too much, it has been nice to not see the cranky posts by Speak but it is ugly of dopey to carry on spouting the same lies, although no one pays him much attention. Any wobble to the IA is interesting.

              How are things with Cali’s blog? Are you busy and is your idea in progress?
              Speak soon, A.

            • Hi Even, I enjoyed reading your posts on GR today 🙂 I also noted D believes G and myself are a guest poster on the thread. LOL. My sister is using her G a/c, and other than here, I have not been posting, but he still see’s us everywhere. I have recently been viewing twitter, I think I mentioned this in my last post here (which D may have read) as I have noticed him calling a poster AA and Alive, making references to my “boys”. Here are the comments:

              MK ‏@santamariaxx Sep 19

              @Dopre1 @soulhudson619 Do f… off please.

              dopre ‏@Dopre1 Sep 20

              @santamariaxx @soulhudson619 Really AA? What would ur husband and boys think of their mummies potty mouth? Or this normal talk in ur house?

              MK ‏@santamariaxx Sep 21

              @Dopre1 I thought I told you to f… off…
              @Jim_and_Hardy, Dopre doesn’t understand what ‘f… off’ means. Could Phil the Greek help?

              Jim Laurel ‏@Jim_and_Hardy Sep 21

              @santamariaxx @Dopre1
              Dopre is a typical Kercher hater from the victim hate blog. He’s too scared to post under his real name.

              MK ‏@santamariaxx Sep 21

              @Jim_and_Hardy @Dopre1 Thank you for clarifying JH. As I thought. Eighteen whole followers too! #influencer

              Jim Laurel ‏@Jim_and_Hardy Sep 21

              @santamariaxx
              Was this the one you wanted to show the Meredith Kercher hater from the victim hate blog–>@Dopre1?
              MK ‏@santamariaxx Sep 21

              @Jim_and_Hardy @Dopre1 That’s the one. Eloquently expressed I feel. My boys would be proud.

              Followdopre‏@Dopre1

              @santamariaxx @Jim_and_Hardy Sure they would Alive. I’m sure they’re so proud to know what their mummy does 24/7 while she ignores them.

              (I wonder how many teenage boys in dopeyland need or want 24/7 attention ? LOL)

              I have no idea who this poster is although I have read (I presume her) tweets. I’m not sure why he thinks we are the same person but his “intuition” is rather skewed 😉 and his paranoia is getting to him. As I am not presently posting it has no effect on anyone but himself, making him look an even more paranoid fool. He is more than welcome to waste his time and will eventually dig himself into a hole where he has accused nearly everyone of being either G or myself. I think its best to let him carry on believing I am everyone!! I noticed there was another poster called “Wellsley” who made the same type of comments to G regarding who they think her husband is & prison etc.. (I think this could be S). It is tiresome but keeps the duo busy! G and I have been busy with “real life”. We have had three recent deaths in the family and our mother has been back in hospital 🙁 A kind rheumy nurse gave me a steroid injection last week which has me back up on my feet so I try to make the most of it – it has enabled me to help our father more so has come at a good time. Hope you are OK. Speak soon, A.

              • Alive, I’m a fish out of water when it comes to deciphering (much less posting) on Twitter, but I can tell from the upvotes that I’m still under D’s microscope. I included a snide reference to him in my reply to BV, so maybe I’ll draw some of the dymanic duo’s fire. If Speak made an ugly remark about me, I didn’t see it. Ground Report loads up my computer with cookies so fast, that I literally have to draft my posts in my inbox, and C&P them onto the board, making it impossible for me to engage them in real time. I’ll try to look for it, but I don’t intend to let her bait me into a response, so she can play the victim (unless it’s something that has to be addressed).

                I’m truly sorry to hear about the deaths in your family. Between that, your mother’s heart attack, and your own medical problems, I’m beginning to understand why you like it better in here than in the real world.

              • They took the bait, Alive. One of them hit me in guest mode on both my OP, and a comment I made to a Michelle Moore thread, which was much deeper. “Guest” has analyzed the situation, and has apparently come to the ridiculous conclusion that I’m the mastermind behind the email campaign. Gee, I wonder who “guest” could be (sarcasm). The last paragraph of that post was the bawdiest remark I’ve made about the foxy one to date. Guaranteed to send any Knoxer into meltdown. I edited it out to create the appearance that I’m hiding it, hopefully increasing the rage factor. The fact that they are now hiding behind “guest” is an indication that they may indeed be sweating over my “auction” idea, which would explain why they’ve gone into stealth mode. I believe I smell a little fear. I’ve copied the post in its entirety. To save you the trouble of trawling, I’ll C&P the exchange, and then edit it down. Please show it to Ghislane. I’m sure she’ll get a good laugh.

                Guest Even Tempered • a day ago

                So this was your big plan??? Really???? What a loser!

                Even Tempered Guest • in a few seconds

                My plan? Looks like someone has once again employed his/her awesome intuition, and come to a truly dopey conclusion. If I were the one behind this, do you honestly think I would be trolling the entire pro-innocence side in guest mode? If I were going to shake the walls of IIP this badly, I would be doing it in this ID. I’d want them to know it was me, so I could savor every single moment of their impotent animosity. I wish I could take the credit for this little lark, but it’s not my brainchild.

                I can, however, look at the road ahead, and (like you) see that it will likely not succeed (assuming its ultimate goal is to defund Knox). To keep her from soliciting donations, they would have to crash her blog (which she’s been neglecting anyway), crash IIP and its sister sites, get her and all her friends banned from Twitter, and every other social media platform on the internet, essentially banish her from online; a near impossibility. It is my opinion that to optimize the damage their campaign does, it would be wiser to remain focused on Sollecito, and allow Knox free reign. Watching his ex continue to shake the money tree while his financial hands are tied could only generate resentment on his part, widening the rift between the two, and possibly provoking him into turning on her.

                I’ll be surprised if they succeed in defunding her, but even if they do, fear not. The foxy one is still young, and pretty good looking (at least when she’s dolled up). She could still make tons of money as an exotic dancer. With all the Knoxers in that city, she’d be a guaranteed draw. Knoxers would be camping out in the parking lot of that strip club every night. They’d probably pay $100+ for a lap dance. Ta Ta. Now be a nice little guest, and scram.

                  • Hi, Alive. I’ve left my comments on this thread mostly intact (editing out only sensitive personal information). If they were watching this thread, they’d know from one of my own comments that I had nothing to do with this defunding thing, so I think we’re safe in here. If you have reason to believe otherwise, I need to know why.

                    I also need to know where Speak posted that C&P, and to which poster. She may be telling the truth as she knows it (for a change), but that still doesn’t change the fact that she’s effectively framing me for something I had nothing to do with. She and Dopre may thing the plan is mine, but if you’ll remember that long post I left her on CNN regarding the plan, you’ll remember that I named myself, you, Calideeva, and Liz as part of the coalition I was trying to form. It also doesn’t help that I hinted at waking up Sophie, who has now recently resurfaced. I wouldn’t be surprised if they think we engineered that too.

                    Whoever masterminded this was trolling Camp Knox as a guest for days. I can’t prove that it wasn’t me, and if she spreads her idiotic conspiracy theory around, and they buy it, then she could bring half of IIP crashing down on all of us. Who knows? Maybe she does know the truth, and that’s her plan, but if she thinks that’s going to get rid of me, then she is in for a disappointment. I’m going to find that comment, and try denying it one more time. After that, this insanity will just have to run its course.

                    As for her comments changing to guest; it’s probably because she’s deleted her SFT account so many times, and started over.

                    • Well, you can’t say I didn’t successfully draw some of the dymanic duo’s fire for you. Her deception is now second nature; disguising her own name with xxxxx, but leaving Cali’s intact. Two very important questions, Alive. Did she comment to Julie as a guest, or in her SFT ID? Did she C&P those comments (with my username on them), or simply say that it was a guilter who posted them? If she named me, then I’m the target. If she omitted my name, then she’s gunning for Cali. Either way, at least she’s not implicating you, since I didn’t reveal anything to you in either of those comments. Before I start barking up her tree, I need to know these things. Thanks.

                    • Hi Even, The one to Julie was posted by Guest and the one to Karen posted by JArthur, but both obviously the same person. You were not mentioned personally other than pro guilter and I noticed Cali’s name had been left intentionally. A couple of new messages have appeared:

                      Guest JLS1950 • 2 days ago

                      Forget this lunatic Paul Revere, it is Even Tempered hiding his mischief behind an alias. This is the least of his diabolical game playing. You have seen it all.

                      JLS1950 Guest • 2 days ago

                      Yes, sometimes ET seems to act like the mastermind behind this entire campaign – dismissing or reassigning posters who do not meet the “challenges” of making Knox look “guilty”. It looks like ET finally banished Ghislane and “her sister” from the boards altogether – perhaps because it had become too clear that they were really the same person and that they were NOT the silly wife of the convicted bank fraudster after all but rather just a concocted pair of “legends” as they say in the spy trade.

                      ALL of these guilter posters are aliases for other guilter posters either present or past. I really doubt that the core of the perennial guilters amounts to more than about 3 – 5 people posting under a plethora of aliases. Sometimes one alias will even show two distinct styles of writing as apparently to different shills try to cover each others’ shifts or something.

                      It is all a charade, and a rather too-well organized one in my opinion. Too apparently professional.

                      Guest really is desperate for your attention!

                      Speak soon, A.

                    • Then the one to Julie was probably Dopre. (Speak would have made sure I got credited with it), and was meant to implicate Cali. I saw the one to JLS implicating me. Since he obviously bought it, that’s the one that counts. He’ll be spewing that conspiracy all over the board. By the way, what are you still doing here? Didn’t I “banish you and Ghislane from the board?” JLS obviously doesn’t follow Radar Online, or he’d have seen that Ghislane is still very much active. Since Ghislane is Monica in his mind, there’s really only one person who could banish her. Trolling him into thinking I’m Mignini would be so easy, but unfortunately, it is against the law to impersonate a judge, so I won’t do it.

                      Cali’s not particularly concerned about all of this, and neither am I. Let the IIP lunatic asylum think what they want. The defunding thing isn’t a crime. Talk show hosts in America are the targets of email campaigns designed to shut them up all the time. Their enemies organize email campaigns to their producers demanding they fire them, and email campaigns threatening their shows’ sponsors with boycotts if they don’t stop funding them. It’s perfectly legal, whether these people like it or not.

                      I also saw a string of Dopre’s tweets to Santamarie thinking she’s you. He’s getting totally owned by that crowd. He’s out of his element on Twitter; same as me. The difference is that I’ve got the sense to stay off of it. I also notice that posters are perceiving him as a male, in spite of that female avatar, so it’s not just me, you, and Ghislane.

                      I’m done denying being a part of this. If I’m going to be accused of it anyway, then I might as well contribute to it.

                    • Hi Even, You naughty (and clever) boy, “banishing” G and I from posting and controlling our own minds across the internet 😉

                    • Hi Even, Coincidence or paranoia ? 😉

                      Paul Revere Pat • 2 hours ago

                      She has a better life than that of her victim Meredith who is dead thanks to her violent hissy fit.

                      Stellium22 Paul Revere • 10 minutes ago

                      So that makes the persecution of Amanda ok does it? Perhaps you are just angry that she has a better life than you and is more even tempered.

                      Posted on VC Post today.

                    • Alive, let’s not jump to conclusions on that one. Stellium’s choice of words may just be coincidence, although how he could believe anyone would be jealous of Amanda’s life is beyond me. She spent four years in an Italian prison, and is now facing that likely fate again, with her finances dwindling by the day. Do you find that particularly enviable? If JLS misidentifies me as Mignini, I will deny that in the strongest possible terms, and convince him that I’m American. Right now though, there’s we’ve got our wires crossed, and I need a correction. You’ve referred to the posts about me as C&Ps in one message, but in the other one you treated it like a quote. Do you remember for sure whether the “”guest” post to Julie and/or Karen were C&Ps (in which case my name would appear), or simply quotes with only Cali’s name mentioned? Thanks.

                    • Never mind, Alive. I found the posts, and have replied to all of them. To save you the trouble of trawling that board, I will C&P my replies, assuming the moderators will permit such a lengthy post. I did not reply to the “guest” who hit JLS, because S commented to that thread, Her reply to me was disappointingly (though not unsurprisingly) all about herself, and pathetic is the only word to describe it. All her stalking and lying dirt is in my inbox, and she knows it, yet she still plays the virtuous card. See for yourself.

                      Even Tempered guest • an hour ago

                      Julie Kaye Jorgensen??? Oh, no! Please! Anything but that! Oh, wait a minute. She seems to have ignored you. Being a guest ghost sure has its disadvantages, doesn’t it?

                      Even Tempered JArthur • an hour ago

                      Ha ha ha! Nice try, but all you got out of Tinkerbell was a weepy GR post regurgitating the IIP mantra about “haters” and “trolls”.Threat potential to us: zero. Don’t worry, though. I’ll try to find the time to dignify it with a sympathy post. XD.

                      JLS1950 Guest • 3 days ago

                      Yes, sometimes ET seems to act like the mastermind behind this entire campaign – dismissing or reassigning posters who do not meet the “challenges” of making Knox look “guilty”. It looks like ET finally banished Ghislane and “her sister” from the boards altogether – perhaps because it had become too clear that they were really the same person and that they were NOT the silly wife of the convicted bank fraudster after all but rather just a concocted pair of “legends” as they say in the spy trade.

                      ALL of these guilter posters are aliases for other guilter posters either present or past. I really doubt that the core of the perennial guilters amounts to more than about 3 – 5 people posting under a plethora of aliases. Sometimes one alias will even show two distinct styles of writing as apparently to different shills try to cover each others’ shifts or something.

                      It is all a charade, and a rather too-well organized one in my opinion. Too apparently professional.

                      Even Tempered JLS1950 • 8 minutes ago

                      Oh, I’m sorry, JLS. I didn’t realize you’d miss Ghislane and Alive. I’ll be happy to bring them back, if you like.

                      Speakfortruth Guest • a day ago

                      As hard as it is to believe ET has a code. He would never use an alias I am positive of that.

                      Even Tempered Speakfortruth • 9 minutes ago

                      Let them run with it, Speak. They think I’m the guy in the grey suit with the white cat in his lap, and they’re running with it. I’ve denied it, and will do so one more time. I have not written a single email to GoFundMe, PayPal, or any other such organization against either Raffaele or Amanda. Getting Knox PayPal account banned would only generate more sympathy for her. Were I truly the one behind this, I would get Sollecito’s banned, and let Knox have free reign to solicit donations. The bitterness and resentment it would cause Raffy would widen the rift between the two, and increase the chances of them outright turning on each other (ideally on Twitter). If that were to happen, it likely wouldn’t impact the judicial side of this case, but it would likely leave Knox’s PR campaign in ruins. BTW, have you checked IIP lately, just to make sure both their PayPal accounts are up?

                      Speakfortruth

                      Here is the crux of my problem with you Phillip…it is impossible for me to have a legitimate exchange with you as you have convinced yourself I am something I am not.
                      As an example…I am playing Words with Speechfreedom at the same time I am scanning these boards. He is my friend and I care about him. I have thought about asking him to contact you and explain that it was him and not me behind the jayanewprinciple I.d. But then I realized that would just be selfish of me. He is happier away from these boards. To drag him back in here for nothing my than my benefit would be wrong. Friends protect each other, not put them in harm’s way.
                      I understand more about you than you think I do.
                      I understand how much acting honorably means to you. I have always respected that aspect of your personality.
                      It is your stubborn blindness that bothers me. You form an opinion and come Hell or High Water you adhere to that misinformed belief.
                      I am not Stacyhs or anyone else. I told you my name. Did I leave out my middle name, the name I go by, …yes I did…because I did not trust you. But I never lied to you. Other people lying to me has cost me dearly in my life. I would rather be completely destroyed by a complete truth than made happy by any lie. I picked my username very very carefully. It represents my most ferverent belief.
                      That our positions on this case differ never diminished my respect for you. Your refusing to accept that someone could be honest with you is what made me lose that respect I once had for you.When I told you I was sympathic to what you have endured..I meant it.
                      When I told you I would no longer engage in any type of “battle” with you…I meant it.
                      And when I told you I wished you continued remission. ..I meant it.
                      Life is so short Phillip…let us both make the most of it

                      That’s it, Alive. Regardless of whether or not Speak’s sympathy (which I don’t need) is genuine, I guarantee you that my reply to her will be well worth the trawl; especially for you.

                    • Now she’s done it, Alive. She has just posted what could easily be perceived as a death threat against Cali, and I’ve responded to it as such. She has so put herself in check.

                      Speakfortruth Even Tempered • 4 hours ago
                      Interesting article just posted on the BBC website.
                      Perhaps you know someone who uses Twitter to viciously attack Amanda Knox that might be interested in this!!!???
                      A 63-year-old woman who was allegedly part of an internet hate campaign against the family of Madeleine McCann has been found dead in a hotel.
                      Brenda Leyland, from Burton Overy, Leicestershire, was accused of being one of the so-called “trolls” directing abusive messages at the McCanns.
                      Her body was found days after she was confronted outside her home by a Sky News reporter.
                      Madeleine McCann disappeared while on holiday In Portugal in 2007.
                      Mrs Leyland was confronted by the reporter who put to her she had posted messages attacking the family on Twitter via the handle @sweepyface.
                      She replied: “I’m entitled to do that.”
                      A spokesman for Leicestershire Police said: “Police were called at 13:42 on Saturday 4 October to reports of a body of called at 13:42 on Saturday 4 October to reports of a body of a woman in a hotel room in Smith Way, Grove Park [in Leicester].

                      “Officers have attended the scene and a file is being prepared for the coroner. The death is not being treated as suspicious.”
                      A statement released by the Marriott Hotel in Leicester read: “We are very sad to confirm the death of a guest at the Leicester Marriott Hotel and our thoughts go out to the family and friends of the deceased.
                      “As this is a police matter and an investigation is under way we are unable to comment further and any queries should be directed at the police.”
                      On Friday, Madeleine’s father, Gerry McCann, told the BBC: “Clearly something needs to be done about the abuse on the internet.
                      “I think we probably need more people charged.”
                      He described how he and his wife Kate, who live in Rothley Leicestershire with their nine-year-old twins, do not read posts about them on the internet because it was too “upsetting”.
                      His interview on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme followed the news that police were reviewing a dossier of abusive messages about the family on social media.

                    • You must have missed my reply to her “olive branch” comment, Alive. It was a brief quip about “another Saint Speak rerun”, and that post was not an attempt to make friends. She posted my real name twice, referenced my condition yet again, and almost in the same sentence reminded me that “life is short”. Would you say that to someone with cancer, even if it was in remission? If she thinks she can trigger some sort of PTSD in me, like they did with you, she is gravely mistaken. I didn’t even start posting in here until over a year after I got out of the hospital.

                      I showed you the comment she made to me in Italian. It wasn’t graphic, and it didn’t get deleted. It read:”Careful, wolf. You can be ripped to shreds”. To rip someone to shreds, you kinda sorta have to do a little mutilating, right? When I replied “You wish”, she realized what she had just done, and went into panic mode: “No. I don’t”. “They’re just words, Even”.

                      Since Cali is the only person I know on Twitter, it was clearly a reference to her. I haven’t shown it to Cali yet. I’m giving Speak time to reply, and try to explain her way out of this one. It’s been hours, so unless she went to bed early, and hasn’t seen it yet, she’s either blowing up Cali’s email with excuses, or (more likely) cowering over at IIP with what few friends she has left. Either way, I suspect that you and your sister are the last thing on her mind right now.

                    • Oh my God I just heard about this board!!
                      The obsession you two have with me is very obvious.
                      Between this and the posts about me on the Hollywood Reporter board/People board and God knows where else…
                      Wow!! All I can say is WOW!!

                    • I’m obsessed? You’re the one stalking us all over Disqus, and as usual it’s all about you. Get over yourself. I suggest you go through your own profile, count the number of AK related posts, and compare them to the ones about your assorted personal vendettas. In case you haven’t noticed, I’ve been having a ball making OPs about the foxy one. It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that you’ve forgotten who she is. It was fun leading you and your spies on a merry chase across the internet, editing our comments down to messages crafted to antagonize you, but it’s getting boring now. Alive (and others) reports it to me when you and your friends are scheming behind my back. There’s nothing you can do about it, so deal with it.

                      Anyway, E’mm cyja oui dra dnuipma uv cdymgehk ic ymm ujan draca puyntc. E’ja vuiht y myhkiyka dryd huha uv oui ryja dra ehdammekahla du etahdevo; silr macc dnyhcmyda. Ouin vneaht delgat sa uvv fedr rec nasyng ypuid Ajanxiacd, cu E drehg ed jano veddehk dryd y tayt numa bmyoehk kysa huf bnujetac sa fedr dra duum E haat du tavayd oui.

                      PS. Strange that you should choose the “mutilation” post to reply to me. I kinda get the feeling that if you ever do find me in the real world, I’d better have a shield in my hand. Now, translate and weep.

                    • You will not find ONE hidden board Phillip where I have been hiding discussing you OR Alive. Anything I have ever had to say to you I said directly to you.
                      But YOU???
                      You say one thing to me…then I hear of these boards where you have been unloading your grandiose fantasies.
                      Stalking you all over disqus?
                      Please. That seems to be your game.
                      Do you realize how childish and petty you both sound to anyone reading these posts of yours?
                      On board after board after board…
                      You are both apparently all over disqus discussing ME!!!
                      Why am I that important to you?
                      Why does what I post bother you both so much?
                      Why do you both see me everywhere?
                      You need medical help Phillip.
                      For 2 grown adults to be scampering from one dead discussion board to the other where the main topic of conversation is someone you do not even know and pretend to detest is an addiction in its purest form.
                      You feed off each other. Co-dependent on each other for your “fixes.”
                      Please seek help.
                      You have both been through life altering events.
                      That you choose to engage in this type of behavior is extremely sad.

                    • Wow! I can tell you’ve been holding back that tantrum for a while. You must still be smarting from that humiliating defeat you and your “guest brigade” suffered on GR. Face it, Speak. This time it wasn’t just me and that single vulnerable girl I was trying to protect from your pack. You and your friends crashed a conversation I was having with one of the meanest pieces on the pro-guilt side, he obviously whistled up some friends, and they were perfectly capable of meeting you on your own terms.. (I’ve affectionately nicknamed it The Battle of Guest Hill). I didn’t plan it. It wasn’t my fault that you people got your butts handed to you.

                      I could C&P some of the comments you’ve made about me to other posters (the ones you haven’t “ghosted” down), but what would be the point? Also, Alive and I don’t have the luxury of PMing each other in IA, which is where you and your friends scheme.

                      Again, it’s all about you. Maybe yoiu do figure prominently in our comments, but the easiest way to put an end to that is to stop dreaming up ways to Pearl Harbor me, or my friends.

                    • Phillip
                      So now the man who talks about his deep spiritual belief in the Catholic faith feels justified in attacking the deep Catholic faith of another poster for what reason exactly?
                      In all our disagreements I have never questioned or attacked your faith.
                      You think I am humiliated by Joe Zoo?
                      I am appalled and repulsed by him.
                      He has said many many horrible things but I will never get over him telling Michael Moreno, on Memorial Day that he hoped his son’s head was blown off.
                      Who says that about one of OUR soldiers killed serving OUR country?
                      And for no other reason than Michael’s opposing belief on this case?
                      That man lost not only his only child Phillip, but his wife to cancer a few years later.
                      Some lines of decency should never be crossed.
                      And before you go off all cocked that I am just defending a fellow pro-innocence poster I will say I was equally as appalled by the pro-guilt poster henessey.
                      S(he) first appeared on the CNN board claiming Meredith was a close personal friend. Then 2 nights later she posted that “Guede had cuts on his fingers because he had them all in Meredith and she had a tight v@gina.”
                      That is disgusting. I begged everyone up and down the board to not respond to this degrading pig.
                      Guess who welcomed him/her to the fold?
                      Joe Zoo and Ghislane.
                      Who does that?
                      How could anybody on either side of the debate engage with someone who had made such a horrible comment about poor Meredith?
                      Your claim that I spend my days thinking of ways to “Pearl Harbor” you is ridiculous.
                      I don’t talk about you behind your back Phillip.
                      When have I ever held back when I had something to say to you?
                      Only cowards talk about someone behind their backs.
                      I am no shrinking violet,…as you well know.
                      As for your comment that you and Alive don’t have the luxury of PMing each other…
                      That is absolutely untrue.
                      Why is it she won’t give you her real email address??
                      All this covert crap could stop in an instant.
                      The fact she won’t Phillip is very telling.
                      You just refuse to accept the truth that exists behind that fact.

                    • Speak, there’s a rum factor right now, so I can’t trust myself to respond to this rant in its entirety. For once in your life, do as I ask, and wait for the rest tomorrow.

                      Alive HAS been trying repeatedly (through Cali) to set up an email correspondence with me (in her real name, no less), but knowing that her husband does not wish it, I have remained obdurate, and consistently refused her requests.

                    • Phillip
                      I know you are not seeking my advice…but here it is anyways.
                      Exchange emails so that you can converse privately.
                      Your presence all over disqus on dead boards with hundreds and hundreds of scheming and accusatory posts make you seem petty and childish.
                      You have a moral line. I respect that.
                      But the truth is you are aiding and abetting Alive in an endeavor her husband expressed to you he does not want her involved in. The line has already been crossed.
                      You are not responsible for her choices. That she chooses to ignore her husband’s wishes is in no way your fault.
                      So…just exchange emails. Keep your conversations private and off these boards.

                    • Ha ha ha! At least you got that right. You WON’T be translating it. It’s a dead language, which you and your friends don’t have a prayer in Hell of deciphering, unless you know exactly where to go. (There are only two places on the internet where it can be translated). Alive wasn’t interested, so I’ll just have to share it with the other pro-guilters. Once I’ve done that, they will be able to have discussions under Camp VietKnox’s very nose, giving them a tremendous psychological advantage. Not that they need it, with the foxy one’s PR campaign tanking and all.

                      Peace and love.

                    • Oh, and it’s your call, of course, but if YOU start praying, I hope you’re good at dodging lightning bolts.

                    • Fryd ra cyet fyc fnuhk.
                      E caa oui Bremmeb. E caa paouht ouin bucdinehk yht pmicdanehk.
                      Frelr ec fro hu syddan fryd oui cyo du sa, hu syddan ruf syho desac oui navica du pameaja E tu hud mea du oui, E femm ymfyoc caa dra kuut eh oui. Ymfyoc.
                      Gynah

                    • Oh, well. So much for “Guilterspeak”. Just out of curiosity, how did you figure it out?

                    • E ys y mud suna ehdammekahd dryh oui keja sa lnated vun.
                      E femm pa ruhacd….ed duug sa aqyldmo drnaa sehidac du vekina ed uid.
                      Ed ec dra cysa fyo E vekinat uid fru oui yna drnuikr ouin Bremmebnuh etahdedo.
                      Yht ev E fyc eh vyld ouin ahaso, yc oui luhcdyhdmo secmypam sa, E fuimt ryja icat fryd E ghuf.
                      Pid ryja E?? Hu. Femm E? Hajan.
                      Dryd oui rumt yh ubbuceda ubeheuh du seha eh drec lyca eh hu fyo tesehecrac ouin jymia yc y risyh paehk.
                      E ys hu paddan dryh oui yht oui yna hu paddan dryh yhouha amca.
                      Ryja oui ajan fuhtanat fro E lymm oui po ouin hysa???
                      Ed ec palyica dra bancuh oui uvvanat ed du tet hud.
                      E fyhdat du yd maycd dno du luhhald fedr oui uh y majam paouht drec lyca.
                      Vnus uha cuim du yhudran.
                      Ku yrayt…cdynd myikrehk huf….pid dryd ec dra dnidr.

                    • My first rant to her was pure theatrics, Alive, but she has replied, and (sure enough) the post was about you. My temper got the better of me, so the outrage in my second rant was genuine. Judging from her weak, bleated reply of “Oh, brother”, she may have gotten the point.

                    • (ROFL) Alive, you have got to see the top of that Nigel Scott thread (as of this writing). Michelle Moore was apparently lurking, and seems to think Speak is a guilter.

                    • I couldn’t stop laughing when I saw it. You can tell from the incoherent post that Michelle was obviously drunk, but you’re right. We both know how badly Speak takes it when other Knoxers take note of her odd behavior, and call her on it. I’d just love to see her try to start stalking Michelle (though I doubt she has the courage). All of Speak’s edited online dirt would be in MM’s inbox so fast, it would make her head spin. (I’d be perfectly happy to watch somebody I don’t like chase somebody I REALLY don’t like off of these boards). That Paul Revere comment seems to have come back to haunt me, and (worse) JLS appears to be buying it. I doubt the poster who hit him was Dopre. Dopre knows what my motivations were back when I made that comment (to warn unsuspecting posters that there was a blog war raging), and Dopre’s smart enough to know that that’s what I meant by “Paul Revere ride”, and not take it out of context. I just hope they don’t end up chasing Paul out of his ID with this insanity.

                      I commented to Karen Pruett’s thread, and sure enough, Tinkerbell was in my inbox the next day, hitting me with a nasty message (with Speak’s upvote on her post), so I gave her a good chewing up, and haven’t heard from her since. We can now add her to my rapidly growing list of personal enemies. I am so sick of Speak and her friends pointing these low-level paper tigers my way. If they’re going to sic someone on me, the least they could do is send me a real challenge.

                      BTW, I’m happy about the news you gave me, and hope it was nothing.

                    • Hi Even, Poor old Speak is probably fuming to be thought of as a ‘guilter’, especially be one of her “cherished leaders” as she calls them. MM surely did not seem 100% coherent maybe rage, drink or a good mix of the two. Thinking back, many of her rants could be alcohol related as many make no sense. You reply to KP post was excellent and I see she has not yet responded. Did you see her comment about the Deep Internet – I’m sure S picked up on our conversation and how now sent KP a completely warped summary of you and I.

                      What will make you laugh is that a pro Knoxer has set up another petition (with changedotorg) calling for the release of Sollecito’s passport and paperwork. I wonder if this is a reaction to your posts advising for the distance to be put between AK & RS, and this is their way of proving to Sollecito they are still supporting him in the hope he will not completely cut all ties. I would say this token effort is far too little far too late. He was already caught at the Austrian border on the very day the last result was given. He entered Geneva under false pretences, lies and incorrect paperwork and was removed. What with his holidays in SAmerica and his need to marry an American, he does not have such a great background in wanting to stay put to serve any time he recieves, although he did return to attend his last Court appearence.

                      On the Nigel Scott post thin blue mentioned S’s wheelchair comments – literally with less than 5 mins S was there saying it was said as a reaction to a post about her MIL dying & abuse she rec’d about it. She tell’s so many lies that she forgets what she has said and not what she has said and when! She mentioned her MIL after this confrontation, and she sent it to a guest poster she presumed was me, she even admitted that! Every stinky word that comes out of her mouth is a lie.

                      Thank you for defending myself with her charming death wish post. I see think also asked for help. I remember seeing what Speak did to first – she posted a poem to which think replied RIP, Speak then edited her comment, leaving thinks intact and reported her for sending a “death threat” I also saw it come from Speaks disqus a/c – it was not an imposter’s.

                      Thankyou Even, waiting on results and glad to have her home 🙂 G has been a bit quiet, was taking into hosp early yesterday morning and should be home by now or early morning. She has peritinitous (which all kidney patients fear getting). She is on various antibiotic drips and they will send her home with a course to put through her self diaylisis fluid bags. She seems in good spirits though in a lot of pain. My eldest said today it doesn’t rain for us, it pee’s down! will hopefully all settle down soon. It was jtlyk G has not abandoned the fight for justice for Meredith and her family.

                      Take Care
                      Speak soon, A.

                    • Between what she attempted to do to you, and what she did to Think, you’ll forgive me if I’m not in the mood to laugh off the situation with Speakfortruth. Think1st is one of Cali’s dedicated readers, so needless to say, she was not happy when I told her what Speak tried to do. Did Think’s “RIP” comment get deleted? How did she know Speak falsely reported her post as a death threat? If Speak told her, that could just as easily have been a lie.

                      Karen won’t be replying to me; which is just as well. I don’t know much about her, and see no reason why she and I should become personal enemies, which is why I will not be replying again, unless she hits me. I was sorely tempted to reply to one of her latest OP’s about the Deep Web, because spreading the knowledge of its existence all over AK land is a recipe for posters (on both sides) going down there out of curiosity, and loading their PCs up with viruses. Not to mention the prospect of someone with the financial means going in, and putting out a contract on either one of their own enemies, or Amanda. (Her death by violence or suicide would be a catastrophic outcome. As I’ve said before, it would leave the case forever unresolved, and enshrine her in the memory of her cult, while forever demonizing the pro-justice movement). When she waded in with the name-calling, my reply to Karen was only meant to antagonize her out of my inbox, but I suspect she backed off because she’s buying into “JArthur’s” accusation that Cali and I are behind the defunding of Sollecito, and she may have misinterpreted my remark about an email campaign against her GR article as a veiled threat to do just that. Either way, another one of the GR bottom-feeders they keep trying to sic on me bites the dust.

                      I looked at the pro-Sollecito petition on changedotorg, and it is truly pitiful. The feeble arguments of the petitioner are wasted, because the petitions on that site never reach the government at the federal level. Wethepeople is the site on which to petition the Obama Administration. Whoever wrote it probably wasn’t a dedicated Knoxer; just one more idiot who doesn’t know what he’s doing.

                      This is the first I’ve heard of Speak’s MIL, but if she died (assuming she isn’t just another one of Speak’s made up stories), then (from what I’ve seen of Speak) there were probably life insurance benefits and a “freak accident” involved.

                    • Alive, it’s been a week since my last message. Did it get through to you? Are you still with us

                    • Alive, my conversation with Thin on Karen’s Ground Report thread didn’t remain private for very long. I’ve engaged them, but it will NOT be in real time. Please stay out of it. I can hold my own against weaklings like Annella.

                      Your last message was deeply disturbing, which is why I have emailed Cali, and asked her to function as a go-between, so that I can get the details about what they did to your sister.

                      I have no idea what you’re talking about when you say “IP thread”. I’m afraid you’re going to have to spell it out a little more clearly for me.

                      Thanks

                    • Hi Even, I have not posted for a long time on these threads and like I have previously said, I would not jump into any conversations you are having (unless you wanted me to). I will wait to hear from Cali. The thread I mentioned is on IIP (one about G). Speak soon, A.

                    • Alive, you probably already know this, but Cali’s blog has been maliciously hacked. (If you’re watching Twitter, ignore all that rubbish about her overreacting to an “Ipad or Iphone problem”. Her provider’s support team has confirmed it, and the encryption used by the hacker was extremely sophisticated) She’s got her hands full managing this, and using her as a go-between is not an option. I have, however, found an alternative (which I consider quite inspired, BTW). I’m still waiting for her opinion on how sound an idea it is. Since this thread is obviously being watched, if you choose to reply to me here, simply post with the expectation that they will eventually see it, choose your words with great care, and avoid editing down. Post as you would have back in March, when we knew they were watching us on that HR board. I’m tired of hiding from these stalking fiends.

                    • Hi Even, yes, I know about Cali’s blog being hacked. It was obviously not on “ipad or iphone” error as suggested by others, as it happened to more than one person when trying to view her site. I spoke to Cali regarding the alternative – fine by me and Cali said to look out for it. Speak soon, A.

                    • Hi Even, The Knox cultists are seeing G everywhere!! Phad believes Thin Blue Line is her now – LOL. They are becoming more paranoid by the day.

              • Never mind, Alive. I found her weak dig about my “life altering event”. As long as she leaves you and Ghislane alone with that FF nonsense, I don’t really care what she says to (or about) me. She can stalk me to her heart’s content. But thanks for watching my back. The thread’s starting to trend now, so if I can get Corvello out of my hair, I might make another OP. Of course I’m competing with “guest”, who is trolling the Hell out of the whole Knoxer board.

      • Update, Alive. Sophie didn’t just delete her Disqus account. Her Facebook page has been taken down as well, meaning that one of them likely stalked it.

        • Thats awful. I saw her account had vanished from GR – to remove her FB account must mean that they have seriously hassled her enough to go that far 🙁 And to think of the fuss SFT & Fro made about his FB a/c. I’m not saying they were involved as I only saw D and hmh attack her, but talk about double standards! They really are vindictive people. They seriously want to shut down certain people – I saw how D and MMoore used to speak to her and always admired S responses. She may have told a few fibs about her age etc..but so what, that was not harming anyone and of no ones business. D even said something about S having a dead sister and seeing her ghost and S using her a/c ? Plain weird. So that is another poster who has bitten the dust due to their normal actions of trying to stalk posters into their real lives!:( Just replying to your other message, A.

          • Alive, Speak has replied to me, and you have to see this to believe it.

            Speakfortruth Even Tempered • 5 hours ago

            Even
            I have known you long enough to know I could put proof of something right in your hands and you would dispel it as lies.
            Edit:
            Because of this…I will not be addressing the many untruths contained in your “lecture.”
            I did see the post about your health..
            As such…I will not tangle with you.
            I wish you continued remission.
            B.A.M.
            BreAnne M.

            Notice how her “real” last name has once again changed (this time within two comments). I don’t intend to reply to her tonight, addressing that discrepancy, and I would ask you and your sister to refrain from doing so, as well.. Otherwise, she’ll likely catch her error, and edit accordingly, and I want other posters (such as hmh) to see that comment in its current form, which is why I won’t be replying to her until tomorrow. Let the more sane Knox supporters see, firsthand, what a pathological liar she is.

            The remark about my health obviously proves that she’s been trawling, but I don’t believe it was meant maliciously, so much as an attempt to use my “disability” as an excuse to evade my points.

            I also don’t believe it necessary for you to keep editing down your comments on this board (unless they contain sensitive information about your medical condition). Just remember to be careful what you say. This is a relatively small blog, and you can be sure that our comments are being read by mods.

            • Hi Even, I have seen her reply. I did start replying to you and fell asleep as I had just had my tablet! Here is her reply in its original form – she has already edited it!

              Speakfortruth Even Tempered • 6 hours ago

              Even
              I have known you long enough to know I could put proof of something right in your hands and you would dispel it as lies.
              I did see the post about your health..
              As such…I will not tangle with you.
              I wish you continued remission.
              B.A.M.
              Brea Anne M……

              Yep, I noticed yet another name change, don’t forget you also have the copy of her post stating she told Joe y or Joe Z what her full name was (which was again different) so she cannot say YOU have told anyone, it was herself telling all and sundry.

              Her response is an attempt to not address any of the points of your comment as she has no real answers to her lies (even though this does not usually deter her), it is a cop out, and like you say she has used your illness as an excuse as to not answer. She must have seen that comment before and had no trouble replying then! I wonder if she feels any shame posting the wheelchair comment about myself (after knowing what I had been through last year and currently – knowing it is a chronic illness), and then agreeing with JLS that I was like this because I must have sinned in Gods eyes – this was my punishment for being a sinner. Posters saw her, Denver and JLS malicious replies and commented on them, so S has no morals with using this approach against people in the past when it suits her means. She can use this info to be hurtful and insulting without batting an eye, but it is now used as an escape route for not answering to her lies. A constant hypocrite. I am in the habit of editing certain posts due to S&D hunting them done only to make reference to and pick apart every comment I make. Remember the post back on CNN I made to Speech that had them going wild because I dared make a comment to him about an actor he was interested in!! I have found it easier to remove all rather than pick through personal medical or family references. I also remember the comment made about my son going to D! I will not post on GR and ask my sister the same and will reply later to your other comment. I am sorry she has seen the comments about your condition and is now trying to use it to prove what high morals she now has when it has not deterred her in the past!! Speak soon Even, A.

              • Fun, fun fun!. Alive, I was hoping for a dual attack from the dymamic duo, and now it is happening. I realize that Speak’s sanctimony, and Dopre’s distorted drivel are a bit insufferable, but I would ask you to stay out until I’ve had a good days sleep.(Please remember that I want her name-changing comment to stay up long enough for other posters to see it, which is why I haven’t engaged them yet). Also, I would like to make it clear that I don’t believe either of them was responsible for whatever happened to Sophie on her own FB page (although I might bring my anger at that attrocity up).

                Dopre is (and never has been) anything remotely resembling a threat to me, and I will trash his miserable excuse for a post, when I get up. (Remember that I don’t take them on in real time). I might even reply to him in Italian, just to make it a little more colorful. They also both seem to have forgotten that we are no longer alone, but a part of something greater, and I think that the time has come to remind them.

                I’d still like to know, though, what happened to your sister’s Ghislane 1000 account. If she has voluntarily deleted it, please encourage her to undo it, if possible. Backing down from these mental Lilliputians is (IMO) beneath her.

                Either way, I beg both of you to stay out of it, until I’ve responded to them later. After that, if either of you choose to weigh in, then feel free.

                Till then,

                Phillip.

                • Hi, No neither my sister or I will respond to them. G started posting as guest and did post to both of the dynamic duo saying she would respond in the manner they deserved and told them to go away in a harsher manner which she knew could get her banned. Both of them kept posting she was banned under her previous id, which as far as I know she has not. She has had enough with GR which is why I think she posted in such a manner. They will both be surprised when she posts on other forums using her previous name. I saw her today and she will go back to ignoring them, like she said her reason for ever posting was the cause for justice for Meredith and her family. She did her best with ignoring them and their various id’s but I think the comment regarding my situation (illness/disability), on top of my mothers heart attack and recent death of our Aunt (my mothers last sibling) along with S’s increasingly mad and slanderous lies would have goaded even a saint !!

                  D’s mention of other websites is ironic when IP and bruce have left that embarrassment of a thread up. It embodies all that is wrong about themselves and their members – a true indictment of what that site and members are about and like. The means they will go to in their obsessions with trying to discredit people. Anyone with self respect and morals would not have let that thread ever get started in the first place. Speak soon, A.

                • Well Phillip…it is over…truth won.
                  I will always remember you with a mixture of sadness and some element of affection.
                  Wishing you a happy life.
                  Breanne Karen

                  • Well, in case you hadn’t noticed, Speak, I haven’t commented in this madhouse since December, so I hope you weren’t expecting anger or bitter disappointment from me. Amanda is innocent. I’m amazed that the CAS ruled in her favor, but I can accept that, I, however, was only immersed in this environment for eight months. The more seasoned posters have been in here for seven years. The question is: How will the other pro-guilters react? Will they be able to let it go as easily? The story just broke, and I haven’t been able to find an active thread yet. The news sites I looked at didn’t even have message boards (at least not for Disqus). That’s unusual for CNN. Like you, I’ll be happy to see this end, but don’t declare it over until we’re sure that it actually is. Either way, it can’t draw out much longer. Now that Knox is no longer news, they’ll stop publishing stories about her, and there won’t be anywhere to post.

                    • Oui ymfyoc ryt ed ymm fnuhk Bremmeb. E hajan fyhdat du ynkia fedr oui. E vamd y cdnyhka luhhaldeuh du oui, frelr ec fro E luhdehiat du naylr uid du oui ajah druikr oui nazaldat dra dnidrc E bnacahdat du oui.
                      E femm ymfyoc pameaja eh so raynd dryd Ysyhty yht Nyvvyama yna lusbmadamo ehhulahd, yht dryd Kiata ymuha sintanat dryd buun payidevim ouihk fusyh.
                      Megafeca, E ys cehlana eh so fecr dryd oui ryja y rybbo vimvemmat meva, ev oui lruuca du uhla ykyeh nazald dra dnidr uv so cdydasahdc, E lyhhud luhdnum dryd.
                      Dyga lyna Bremmeb

                      Pronounced: “OHooee aem-feaeoh-ku raae-te eay-de aemm fenoo-ha-kuk BAE-raeaymmeay-bae. EAY haah-jaeahn feae-ha-deah-te deoo aen-kukeeah feeay-de-ra ohooee. EAY fuahm-de ae ku-denae-ha-kukah luoo-ha-haah-lu-deeayoo-ha deoo ohooee, fe-raeay-lu-ra eay-ku fe-raoh EAY luoo-ha-deeay-haeeah-te deoo nahae-lu-ra ooee-de deoo ohooee ah-jaeah-ha de-raooee-kuk-ra ohooee nahzah-lu-deah-te de-raah denee-de-ra-ku EAY baenah-kuah-ha-deah-te deoo ohooee.
                      EAY feeaymm aem-feaeoh-ku peahmeayah-jaeah eay-ha seeoh raahaen-de de-raae-de AE-seeae-ha-teae ae-ha-te Nae-fu-fuaeahmah aenah luoo-see-baemah-deahmoh eay-ha-haoo-luah-ha-de, ae-ha-te de-raae-de KUKeeah-teah aemoo-haah seeeen-teahnah-te de-raae-de baeoooon peahaeee-deeay-fueem ohooee-ha-kuk feoo-seeae-ha.
                      Meay-geah-feeay-kuah, EAY ae-see kueay-ha-luahnah eay-ha seeoh feeay-ku-ra de-raae-de ohooee raae-jaeah ae raae-bae-baeoh fueem-fueaymmah-te meay-fuah, eay-fu ohooee lu-raoooo-kuah deoo oo-ha-luah ae-kukaeeay-ha nahzah-lu-de de-raah denee-de-ra oo-fu seeoh ku-deae-deah-seeah-ha-de-ku, EAY luae-ha-haoo-de luoo-ha-denoom de-raae-de.
                      DEae-geah luaenah BAE-raeaymmeay-bae”

                    • Whatever, Speak. One thing I’m not going to miss is these Saint Speakfortruth sermons. You know what your problem is? You get mad too easily. Oh well, the platform for our online fencing is about to go poof, so I suppose it doesn’t really matter whether I believe you or not. Godspeed.

                      Oh, I almost forgot. It has been brought to my attention that you’re having a little problem on Disqus, and it would not be very chivalrous of me not to lend you a helping hand.

                      Ur, E pameaja oui ypuid ymfyoc fyhdehk du naylr uid du sa. Eh vyld, oui’ja fyhdat ed cu pytmo, oui’ja paah dnyfmehk dra ehdanhad cehla Talaspan, muugehk vun so bnejyda luhjancydeuhc fedr Ymeja. Tuh’d pudran tahoehk ed. Oui fana lusbmyehehk du Tubna ypuid hud paehk ypma du veht ic. E luimth’d cdub myikrehk frah E vuiht uid. Mad sa ramb oui uid. Oui ynah’d kuehk du veht dras. Umt uhac, syopa, pid hu nalahd uhac. Ymeja yht E ryja paah lussihelydehk drnuikr asyem (ympaed ehvnaxiahdmo) vun suhdrc. E lyh’d pameaja oui luimth’d huda dra ypcahla uv so UBc, uh haf YG cduneac, tu dra sydr, yht vekina uid dryd E fyc uid uv dra kysa. Famm, hafc vmycr, tumm. Frema oui fana cbahtehk Kut uhmo ghufc ruf silr desa dnyfmehk umt Tecxic drnaytc, E fyc cbahtehk so vnaa desa aqbmunehk JITI yht dra Lmuit uh faaghekrdc, yht mejehk ed ib eh (uvvmeha) NBK myht, puddma uv Pylynte vensmo eh ryht, yht pmeccvimmo ihyfyna uv ouin ihahtehk caynlr vun luhjancydeuhc dryd tuh’d aqecd. Dra uhmo udran desa E cbahd uhmeha fyc uh cdispmaibuh. Cu oui caa, so tayn, oui’ja fycdat faagc yht faagc uv banvaldmo kuut cdymgehk vun hudrehk. Funca, ev oui’ja paah tuehk ed uh Knuiht Nabund, oui’ja bnupypmo belgat ib ymm gehtc uv symfyna. Frah E ibknytat so calinedo pylg eh Talaspan, so venafymm dobelymmo pmulgat yd maycd uha jenic ajano desa E jecedat dra ceda (hud du sahdeuh dra makeuhc uv luugeac). Dryd fyc uha uv dra naycuhc E mavd drec sytruica, yht E yccina oui dryd (vyn vnus dymgehk ypuid oui) E ryjah’d uhla ajah druikrd ypuid oui (un dra YG lyca, vun dryd syddan). Dra Ghuq Fyn ec ymsucd landyehmo ujan, yht E’s ugyo fedr ed, pid yna oui xieda landyeh dryd OUI yna kuehk du pa ypma du ku pylg du y hunsym meva?

                    • Still believing Alive’s lies I see.
                      I left these boards when my account was hacked.
                      Remember this I posted to you Phillip ??

                      Avatar
                      Guest Even Tempered
                      5 months ago
                      Phillip
                      I know you are not seeking my advice…but here it is anyways.
                      Exchange emails so that you can converse privately.
                      Your presence all over disqus on dead boards with hundreds and hundreds of scheming and accusatory posts make you seem petty and childish.
                      You have a moral line. I respect that.
                      But the truth is you are aiding and abetting Alive in an endeavor her husband expressed to you he does not want her involved in. The line has already been crossed.
                      You are not responsible for her choices. That she chooses to ignore her husband’s wishes is in no way your fault.
                      So…just exchange emails. Keep your conversations private and off these boards.

                      Think as you will, I have tried to end this on a friendly note.

                    • I thought my last two replies WERE friendly. In fact, I thought it was kind of funny. Anyway, what does it matter what kind of note this ends on, as long as it ends? Since Amanda Knox is now officially considered innocent, I cannot, in good conscience, speak out against her. I’m certainly taking a more reasonable attitude than other people on my own side. Last night, Peter Quennell had an update on his front page decrying the ruling as a miscarriage of justice, and hinting at an absurd theory that the CAS was bought;(possibly with mafia money). It’s obvious that TJMK isn’t going anywhere, which means that IIP isn’t going anywhere. Once the stories of this latest ruling die down, the mainstream media is going to drop the Amanda Knox case, and the only battles and vendetta feuds fought over this case will be by the core members of each side, on lower end blogs like GR. Do you honestly want to be a part of something like that. I sure as Hell don’t intend to be.
                      And just for the record, I’m not the one who hacked your account, nor do I have any idea who did. You closed your SFT account before I had a chance to reply.

                    • LOL Phillip, sad & lonely Speak is still chasing us across the internet. Has a “mother of two young daughters” nothing better to do with her time? Why obsess about our conversations? She admitted to be frustrated she could not find our conversations but little did she know they are private between the two of us 🙂 Why would a married woman be obsessed about our convo’s ? Very odd.

                      Speak soon xx

                    • What kind of lunatic would possibly think online posts could ever be private between two individuals. Are you completely insane???? It isn’t called the world wide web for nothing. Everything you post is recorded forever and viewable to anyone who comes across it. Not a problem if you are posting a comment about an article, but posting crap about other posters all over the internet is something only a child would do. Time to grow up and stop obsessing about other people and their beliefs and opinions, if you have a family, pay attention to them and seek help for your psychological problems, which are very obvious to anyone who reads you ridiculous posts. The sad thing is you really seem oblivious to your craziness.

                    • ha ha me lying ?

                      Who’s trying to pull the wool over Phillips eyes, even two plus years later Karen/speakfortruth uses multi ids and does not have the guts to use her real life id. Why is that Karen?! You happily post using names that you imagine might connect with my real id, but they have all backfired on you.use what you think is my real life id, after spending years of your time trying to out me or those close to me 😉 What a joke you are. You would adore to know who the real “phillip” is 😉 only his closet confidants know this info, you not being one of them. Phillip is a very special man in numerous peoples hearts and not one of them will ever berry him to the like of you. Carry on being envious of our special close relationship and try to do all you can to convince both of us to break our relationship. it showshow utterly desperate you are in you real life that you have never succeeded in such a relationship. i pity you. Spend more time with your three girls and husband ( if real) and fulfil your empty life with them, not with trying to break other peoples happiness or following previously convicted killers. Try to achieve something that will be of benefit to your local community or world, rather than lying about or really stalking people in real life. Sine the Barbara Leyland case has happened her you and Feloniuos are treading on thin waters.

            • Hi Even,

              A few interesting notes – SpeakForTruth’s name appears to be from :
              Elegant Extracts: Pindaric, Horatian, and other odes By Vicesimus Knox

              Book VI Page 205 Elegiac and Funeral Sentence: Yet let me speak, for truth’s sake, angry queen. The authors name is interesting! SS/SM had posted she was a retired English teacher. This authors writings are mainly about morals, a subject SFT accuses every one but herself of having, and a subject of literacy that she may have studied. The author also held the position of Headmaster of Tonbridge School. Can you remember a comment made to myself (on HR) saying the poster was in a restaurant close to the area they thought my sister & I lived, Tunbridge Wells, except they called it Tonbridge. (I am in Tonbridge, Dear). Only the English would know these are two separate towns and spelt differently. I wonder if it was posted by S (she is known for her incorrect spelling of places!). Funnily enough I have friends who attended the school and have friends whose boys board there now.

              There is a discussion on PMF dot org ..viewtopic.php?f=1&t=623&start=5850 – obviously input correctly on google will find the page. There are a few comments regarding S – confirming that she herself posted her name, & what posters think the three names refer to (someone thought Bre Anne refers to Anne Bremner etc..as some think she is Knox or Ex Knox).

              I have just read your reply to D – as usual it is spot on. By “love letters” do you mean S’s posts were flirty, as this is how she was with J Z when she first arrived on the c n n thread. She also admitted posting to P Quenell giving the impression they “flirted” as she threatened to post their correspondence – it appears to be one of her tactics. If not SS, she is married!! If her posts were of this nature do you think this is one of the reasons for her trying her hardest to turn us against each other? She definately has a problem with our friendship & trust of each other. I maybe jumping to the wrong conclusion but it would explain some of her behaviour. A woman scorned etc….

              Oh, what I meant by Miss MPD was multi personality disorder – I was being rather rude and sarccy 😉

              Speak soon, A.

              • Alive, I have no choice but to assume that you’re back in the driver’s seat of this ID, and not the creep that hacked your account. Changing your username won’t work. She trawls Disqus constantly, looking for our conversations, and she would see the switch. Worse, there is now a fake Even Tempered on the board, complete with wolf avatar. If you are approached by “me”, please scroll the avatar, and count the comments before confiding any personal information. Please don’t reply to me here, but through our usual secure route.

                • Hey Phillip..hope you are doing well.
                  Just a reminder,
                  ?????
                  Please follow my trip I leave Tuesday p.m.
                  Also could you pass along a message to Cali for me?
                  I see she is excited about Amanda speaking at Loyola in December.
                  Please let her know I will be attending. I will live tweet the event, so she can follow along.
                  How great is that??!!
                  Warm regards

            • Is this by any chance a picture of you Phillip?
              So here is a question for you..
              Do you approve of someone hacking my Disqus account…forcing me to delete my account??
              Big powerful people right???
              Just the type of people you want as friends?
              You people sicken me.
              Going after people for no other reason than a difference of opinion..
              Trying to cause them harm in the real world…calling employers and trying to get them fired.
              Well..you wanted to be done with me…
              Looks like your getting your wish.
              What kind of victory as decent person could claim…is beyond me.
              Goodbye Phillip

          • Another quick note – D has responded to your comment to SFT regarding her lies, which he does not mention -in his post to you – he ONLY defends SS and does not mention SFT at all?! He knows they are one and the same!

        • Wow – have you seen D’s reply? Dont know quite where to start – full of excuses. One thing that annoys me is that he has stated I have outed people – I have never once done this. He accuse G and I of trying to trace him – neither of us are interested in him – why are they paranoid? and I especially am not interested in S, she bandies around as many names as possible. There are so same excuses for SS regrading the FF mess. His head is in a different world to others 😉 Wonder if he will own up following S through her FB to the point she has closed it down? Again D is trying to pin that IA thread on only felonious, when SS and SFT have BOTH admitted being involved, he is trying to extract his own hand in it. D also ignores he jumped in and offered to “phone” her on what were probably fake numbers, and the comment from Peter saying “we go way back” (a comment very like onesmade by himself). They know that whole situation was not real. He is also mentions Laura was ‘mourning’ – I thought her son had been gone for many years. G made comments along the line it was not the right place to post about her loss and she should seek help or post on the correct forums. I can also remember L asking people for the email addresses, funnily enough only “guilters” no pro Knox! Speak soon, A.

    • Even,
      Speakfortruth has asked me to hit you on this board to confirm two things.
      I was the one who invented the jaya-newprinciple identity, she had nothing to do with it.
      And she is telling the truth about Words With Friends, we play together almost everyday, and talk as we play.
      Speak is my friend Even.
      And this is the only time I will discuss her with you or anyone, so please don’t ask me questions about her, I will not respond to them.

    • Phillip
      I have thought of you recently, hoping you are well.
      I have not been on Disqus since the March 2015 but your name came up in a conversation with Dopre so I thought I would reach out to see how you are.
      Talk to you soon I hope.
      BREANNE KAREN

      • Oh, so Dopre brought you back to my inbox? (Memo: Time for the wolf to pay a little visit to Dopre’s “safe zone” on Twitter, and terrori…er, tweet accordingly).
        Seriously, Speak. We both know you’ve been periodically checking this account, noticed that my commenting profile has started growing, and are just dying to know where I’m commenting. You also seem to have developed a case of selective amnesia, unless you’re going to try to claim that it wasn’t you and your friends I spent weeks tussling with on that Karaoke thread, months after March of 2015.
        Rest assured that I have not been discussing you, or the Foxy One. I’ve found funner playgrounds, now that the country seems to be shifting in the RIGHT direction. I’m doing just fine, and when I do need cheering up, all I have to do is Youtube gems like this.

        And this.

        The downfall of this she-devil in teen’s clothing is a truly epic one (in which my part was, of course, strictly that of a passive observer), but as a result, I now understand your….er Stacy’s peculiar outlook on Sollecito’s video tastes. With s*x “educators” like this making big money poisoning our nation’s youth, it has indeed become “perfectly normal” for college kids to be interested in animal “videos”. This piece of work won’t be doing any more dirt. Our new POTUS hasn’t even assumed office yet, and the swamp is already being drained. Between the other Youtubers and Trump’s base, she got spectacularly chased off the internet, and is apparently living in her car now. Sure feels great to be on the winning side, for a change.

        • Well I see you have not abandoned your ill conceived conspiracy theories.
          Here is yet one more truth from me Phillip. I found something good in you. Perhaps in the same way I did with Speech. I never bought into the “sides” mentality.
          No I was never on whatever story you reference, no I never was Stacy, and FYI I am a registered Republican.
          I was talking to Dopre about the Knox case, your name came up and I wondered how you were. So I reached out.
          End of story.
          I truly do hope you are well, best wishes.
          Breanne

          • I’m not sure I can take many more “truths” from you Speak. You’ve spouted out so many since we met, your nose must have grown clear out the window by now. D.D.D.
            I’m really getting tired of rehashing that whole dark comedy on CNN. You didn’t “find anything good” in Speechfreedom. What you found was his weakness (his need for a friend), you exploited it by flirting with him, and you helped him get himself into trouble. You tried the same thing with me, and it didn’t work out. You did it with Joe Zoo, and it backfired on you rather spectacularly. You seem to have forgotten the night I watched you create that Newprinciple clone in real time, (tripping your own sock puppet show up by commenting to yourself). But thank you for bringing Speechfreedom up. Coming to this board, I notice that his Disqus account has turned to “guest”, so he’s apparently gone now. (What did you and your FOAker friends do with the body)? D.D.D.
            We both know that Dopre would like nothing better than to forget about me, and would never bring me up in a conversation, so please give that particular truth a rest.
            You’re honestly claiming that you weren’t on TMZs “Killing it at Karaoke” thread?” Well, I’m sure glad that Speakfortruth wasn’t you, because she really embarrassed herself. (I particularly loved her claim, which she tried to edit away, that she was “of an exotic race that white men liked to fantasize about”. Then, of course, there was her (failed) attempt to clone me, and post love notes to herself at the top of the thread. If that wasn’t you, then you owe your “friend” Bostiemom a rap in the mouth, because she tripped herself up, and outed herself as the SFT on that thread.D.D.D.
            You’re a registered Republican? Strange, I just took a peek at your Twitter timeline, and there doesn’t seem to be any politically related tweets; only shopped “vacation” tweets, and retweets supporting the side you claim not to be on. BUT, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and also a chance to show that you’re…well…capable of telling the truth. Please like and retweet this.

            https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/820764134857969666

            Oh, and BTW, you’re the only person I know who can make “hope you are well,” sound like “go to H@ll”.

            Your not so obedient servant,

            Even Tempered.

            • Oh good Lord Phillip. Do you honestly believe all your own b.s.?
              Speech turned to guest after I alerted him to the fact that Cali was revealed to be Eileen Haley, and that they were looking for him as well.
              I suspect my friendship with him bothers you so much because we never lied to each other like Melanie Hill Reed constantly lied to you. Of course her brother-in-law Andrew Fuller is out of jail now, so hopefully that entire family is happy.
              When I found out his arrest record went back to 1995 I was not surprised.
              I actually like Melanie’s husband Duncan a lot. Did I mention that I met him at a LeMons charity event a few summers ago? Soft spoken lovely man. His son Fergus was there as well. Lovely young man. Boy does he love auto racing!
              My holiday pictures are fake? LOL
              Ok Phillip whatever you say!
              Since it seems you are as full of yourself as you were 2 years ago, I will refrain from commenting to you again.
              I wish I could say I was sad about Justice4Ever being scrubbed immediately upon Eileen being exposed for the lunatic she is, but THAT would be a lie.
              Wishing you a happy life in that concocted fantasy world you live in!
              Breanne

              • WTH? You again? What am I supposed to do with all this prattle? AND YOU STILL HAVEN’T RETWEETED DONALD TRUMP!!!!! Lie about being a Republican, get called on it, and then pick a fight to deflect! Typical liberal! And you know what else I find myself asking? With our new president wielding that executive pen right and left, fulfilling his campaign promises one by one, and with me and my new friends bulldozing through the snowflakes’ rapidly shrinking “safe-zones”, why have I been wasting my valuable time and wordage on a 3-comment sock??? Speak, you are trying my patience with this AK war lnyb that you keep hitting me with like a bad hangover!
                (Update) Fortunately for both of us, I draft my longer posts in my inbox, and then C&P them onto the threads, so I’ve had a couple of days to calm down, but I’ll leave the first paragraph intact just so you’ll now how outraged I was at your betrayal of The Donald (for which there may still have to be consequences, but I’ll get into that later).
                Having read, your little hate note, and revisiting the entire mosaic of this conversation, I’ve noted certain peculiarities; little flags that, when pieced together paint a very interesting picture. Good news, girl. After careful consideration, I have decided that you are most definitely NOT Stacy, and I may, in fact, owe Stacy an apology. Allow me to explain.
                A) I took great care to include emoticons in my previous post to convey that I was laughing hysterically (which I was), yet you seem to think I was serious with my remarks about Speechfreedom; an indication that you may be unfamiliar with Disqus. B) As I pointed out, this account is nothing but a sock, set up exclusively to comment to me. C) Throughout our conversation I have frequently pointed out the lapses in your memory. I’d been assuming this was just “selective amnesia” on your part, but these lapses would also be consistent with someone who may have been given only the cliff-notes regarding my complicated relationship with the real Speakfortruth, and who was genuinely confused by my references to past online battles of which she were never aware in the first place. D) Your excuse about Speechfreedom is complete nonsense. The FOAkers forgot about him a long time ago, and he lives in a remote country, where they would have absolutely no chance of getting to him. Since Speech was a fixture on Disqus (not Twitter), you may not even know very much about him at all, except that Speak made friends with him. Have you ever even commented to him? E) I just revisited Speakfortruth’s Twitter account, and noticed that she has been dormant since Dec. 5. F) You really blew it with your supposed meeting with Duncan. “A few summers ago”? That would have been at the height of the blog war, and possibly even before Ghislane was outed. I just don’t see Speakfortruth making such a blunder.. E) You signed your last reply “Breanne”. Speak always signed her posts “Karen”. F) Finally, Speak and I sparred so much that she eventually learned how to keep her temper in check while engaging me. You, on the other hand lose your temper very easily (which has ever been my best weapon against FOAkers). Conclusion: You are NOT Speakfortruth, which begs the question of just who’s little girl you really are.
                We’ve already established that you aren’t Stacy. Dopre is too afraid of me to approach me, and would certainly be able to do a more believable Speakfortruth impersonation. Michelle Moore never replied to my comments, but if she had, she’d have done so in a recognizable ID. (She proved that much in Italy). Ditto for JLS, who has no use for this sock business, and Jackbutler, who’s a straight arrow. I’ve commented a couple times to Bruce, but he just ignored me, and probably doesn’t even remember me. That accounts for all my Disqus “playmates”, which means you’ve likely descended down from Twitter to tangle with me in the Disqus slums (which was a mistake).
                The only two Twitter FOAkers who are even aware of my existence are Marie, who only posted one of my Disqus comments years ago, and Annella, who fled from me when I posted to her on the few occasions she showed her ugly mug down here. Via the process of elimination, that leaves only the “queen” herself. I knew that teaming up with Joe Zoo was a gamble. I made a strong ally, but at the expense of inevitably bringing myself onto your radar along with him, AMANDA.
                One would think that even you would have enough sense not to corner a wolf on a dead thread. Had you done so a year ago, you might have had the upper hand, but things have changed since election day, and now we play by MY rules. I was content to forget about you, but now that you’ve bothered me sufficiently, I can only assume that you want the wolf back in the AK arena. So be it.I’ve spent the last couple of days updating myself on your very public doings, and imagine my glee at what I found.
                Ah, Youtube. You should have followed that link I showed you to “Trumpacolypse”. Laci Green owed Donald Trump absolutely nothing when she posted that video. You, however, owe him for his support (and a million-dollar donation), which you repaid by backstabbing him, both before and after, the election in the WSH with pretty much the same drivel that brought their ire down on her, and (oh joy) Your Twitter timeline on which you’ve been smearing him, both of which don’t seem to have come to the attention of the Trumpsters (yet). Laci’s net worth is 3 million dollars, and she WAS making six figures a year before they chased her off Youtube. Your net worth is only 200K, with an indeterminate source of income, should you be forced to ditch your Twitter and your blog. You should have done your homework on Laci’s downfall. (They always told me you were lazy). D.She had over a million subscribers, yet throughout that truly awesome firestorm, the only “support” they offered her in the face of DT’s army was an occasional tweet of lip service, and (more often than not) an excuse for throwing her under the bus. D.D.D
                Now, here’s the way it’s going to go, young lady. You will either prove ON TWITTER that I’ve been speaking to the real Speakfortruth, or my Disqus profile is going to start (snicker) growing quite significantly. The beauty of it is that there is absolutely nothing illegal about sharing a link on multiple Disqus threads, and expressing an opinion regarding backhanded loyalty (with maybe your take on the Stanton R*pe case thrown in for good measure). D.D.D. Hey you crave attention so much, I’ll be more than happy to provide it in abundance, break out the popcorn, and watch how it turns out.D.D.D.
                Let’s be clear that I in no way condone, nor would I participate in what some of them put Laci through (blowing up the comments in ALL her Youtube videos to the point where she had to disable the likes, sending her pictures of her apartment, and of her going to the grocery store), but once this is set in motion, I will be powerless to control it, much less stop it.
                I’m truly hoping that you can verify your identity as Speakfortruth, because I’m really starting to like this idea, and I’ve got a feeling that, if you and your FOAker friends end up engaging The Breitbart’s finest, the pro-innocence movement, along with this whole stupid blog war, will be over, and the aftermath will leave IIP lying in (to quote Bush) “the unmarked grave of history’s discarded lies”.
                Are you quite sure you want the wolf back? All it will take is a simple retweet to put me back in neutral. Either way, you started this by coming at me in the mistaken belief that you had a weakened, and friendless soft target in your cross-hairs. Ignoring me now would be…..unwise. If you are Speak, then you know I have a history for unintentionally starting things that spiral completely out of control, and we and DT do not take kindly to people who bite the hand, that freed them, as this little C&P from my “concocted fantasy world” would seem to show. D.D.D.

                Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump

                Ungrateful TRAITOR Chelsea Manning, who should never have been released from prison, is now calling President Obama a weak leader. Terrible!

                “Sue Italy? The CAS just gave Amanda Knox the verdict she wanted. I should think she’d be more grateful”. – Even Tempered.

                6:04 AM – 26 Jan 2017

                • Oui yna caneuicmo uvv ouin nulgan. Nasaspan frah oui druikrd drana fyc hu fyo y vasyma luimt vekina uid ouin “calnad” myhkiyka yht E dumt oui E tet eh 1 sehida vmyd?
                  Rana fyc so kaheic sadrut..najaymat!!
                  E duug ouin cdibet saccyka yht lubeat du y kuukma caynlr ahkeha yht ib bubbat Ym Prat dnyhcmydun! Yna oui dammehk sa uhmo y fusyh luimt vekina uid du tu dryd???!!
                  Ur Bremm

                  • “Our” language. Identity confirmed. Welcome back, Speak. I’d like to say I’m just as delighted at your return as Speechfreedom was, but I’m not as into lying as much as you are. Now, let me translate whatever you’ve typed.

                    • Oh for God’s sake you know it’s me, stop acting like a 2 year old.
                      So, b.s. aside, how are you? I hope you have been well. One thing I will say Phillip is your antics always made me laugh.
                      Like reminding me tonight was rum night.
                      I forget what Saturday night is….ah I remember…brandy night right??!!
                      Since last we talked I have been doing a lot of triathlons. I find I love the 3 different sports (swimming, biking and running) in one event.
                      I have traveled quite a bit as well.
                      Well not as entertaining as your rum night, but tonight is “every kid in the block invited for make your own pizza night” so I must go shop for the ingredients. My girls love veggies but some kids actually like pepperoni. (Yuck)
                      I am a registered Republican Phillip. I wanted McCann. No way could I vote for Trump after he said McCann “was not a war hero, the he prefers his hero’s not to get caught.”
                      I read an account of what McCann endured.
                      I frankly am surprised Trumps morals don’t bother you. That is one thing I never questioned about you. Our morals differed but I always acknowledged you had them.
                      As for that Twitter account, I would never be stupid enough to use my real email. Sadly I lost all that information when my last computer got a virus so Speakfortruth one had to be abandoned. I started another one for my last vacation to post pictures so my friends could follow me without having Twitter accounts ( they all hate Twitter as do I) but for some reason it never showed up in a Google search so that got abandoned too. Dopre told me it was because I didn’t have enough tweets on it.
                      By the way, SHE is well and we do talk about you from time to time. Our trip to Chicago to see Amanda was fun. I loved Chicago. This was the second time I met Amanda. She really is tiny in person. Very thin. Her work with the Innocence Project is important to her.
                      I got BostieMom an autographed copy of her book. Bostie is well also in case you wondered. The 3 of us are involved in other matters that are common interests to the 3 of us.
                      Anyways, I really have to go shop before the girls get home.
                      TTYS
                      Breanne (Karen)

                    • I wish I’d seen this sooner instead of guzzling rum! You probably got that virus from Ground Report (same as me), and you’re likely to get another one (or worse) if you keep making remarks about pizza and children! Imaginary family or not, I know you’re innocently talking about pizza, but others…. well, it’s easier to just show!

                      https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/

                      I don’t buy into this, of course, but these people do!

                      Don’t be deceived by the small number of views. Youtube keeps taking this video down! If you skim the blog post, and watch the first couple minutes of the video, you’ll get the idea. I’ll respond to the rest of this post after I’ve calmed down, but don’t reply until I do, and whatever you do, don’t edit it down! You’ll be conveying guilt!

                    • I just googled John McCann. If I’m reading this right you’re a registered Republican, and on election day, you wrote in a vote to put a peanut-butter salesman in the White House. And don’t dismiss it as a typo. You spelled the name wrong twice. It is now glaringly obvious that the fish at the bottom of the Marianas Trench have a better grasp of American politics than you do. Where do you live, lady? On the Moon? If you had the tiniest understanding of this election cycle, you’d no that whether they liked him or not Republicans voted for PRESIDENT Trump because it was essential that they not lose control of the Supreme Court. That’s what the future of this country depended on, and they understood that.This mortal threat to conservatism was more important than the President’s morals. But let’s apply your idea of “morals” to President Clinton. Let’s see. His misconduct with Monica Lewinsky, for starters, and then there’s Clinton’s numerous trips to Epstein’s infamous island. I’m sure he just went there for the cuisine (sarc).

                      If you insist on spamming me with fluff, I sure wish you’d stick with one narrative. On the one hand, you’re a stay-at-home mom, and on the other you’re a Ritchie rich world traveler.

                      Either way, it’s clear to me, that, not being politically savvy, you’re incapable of recognizing the sheer magnitude of super-storm which is about to come the Foxy One’s way, but I’ll give you one more chance. There are Twitter help pages for the problem you face accessing that old account, and even if they can’t help you, you can do what you do best:Create a new account with the same name, and a simple @speakfortruth2. It’s not like this is a new trick for you.

                      Since you’ve wasted my time yet again, the terms you must meet are going to be escalated accordingly. You will like AND retweet this tweet.

                      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/824227824903090176

                      In addition to doing so, I must now insist that you not only make a remark in the space above the RT, but in addition to hashtagging that statemet to the AK HT, you will also tag Amanda Knox herself (by including her @name in the statement) to show her where your true loyalties lie. This is your last chance to prove you’re a good Republican. You might be “amused” by my “antics”, but I doubt she’ll share in that amusement. BTW, don’t even bother trying to warn her so she can delete her Trump-related tweets. Deleted Tweets are easily recovered, even by me. Laci Green tried it during her panic, but the Breitbarters found them, and posted them right back on her news page. Time is running out.

                    • It’s been several days, and you’re still here, so I’m guessing my warning was timely, and your pizza blather was perceived as genuine fluff. Where do I even start with your “pizza night”. While I must acknowledge your talent as an actress, your script-writing skills (IMO) are for the birds. I could have sworn your two girls were boys (and twins) back on CNN. If I remember correctly, they were 13 at the time, which means they would be at least 16 by now, and we all know just how eager teenagers are to have their friends over to their parents’ house for a pizza party on Friday night. (That was sarcasm, just in case you missed it). I don’t know how things work in your country, but in mine, most teenagers either have cars, or are friends with other ones who do, and would much rather go out to a pizza parlor, or teen bar on the weekends than stay home with the old folks. Also, most teenage girls nowadays (assuming they want boyfriends) are very weight-conscious, and would only eat pizza infrequently, if at all, and they certainly wouldn’t be chowing down on it every week. Since your children don’t seem to be aging, I must revise my earlier comment about you living on the Moon, and can now only assume that your actual location is Neverland. Now you could, of course, have four children (with the younger two never having been mentioned in the past), but that would seem to make you a veritable maternity ward in your own right. Please save the STAGE show for the kiddies.
                      Since you’re obviously bound and determined not to retweet President Trump, I was going to offer you the out of tasking Dopre with this simple chore. (BTW, I owe her an apology. She actually is a female. I’d never have believed it). Unfortunately that is not an option, since Dopre seems to have closed down her Twitter account over the course of this conversation, and has disappeared from my radar.

                      Oh, wait……Here she is.

                      https://twitter.com/dopre1

                      I wonder why she hasn’t tweeted yet? Oh, well. It doesn’t matter, since I’ve lost my patience with all this stalling. If you weren’t watching my commenting profile before, I’m betting you are now, so when you see it start to grow again, you’ll know that I’m starting the ball rolling (which I should have done when I first saw Knox’s treacherous smearing of her new POTUS, rather than waste time with you. Your intransigence has left me with a long and grueling chore).
                      From what I’ve seen, the Knox war is practically dead on Disqus, and a tiny shadow of its former self on Twitter. Did it ever occur to you, when you dragged me out of AK retirement, that an entire year has passed, giving me time to EVOLVE? You should have heeded me when I told you that the rules had changed.
                      Be aware that should you choose to re-immerse yourself into the AK environment, and further compromise your sanity, I won’t stand in your way, I won’t bother you, and I won’t encourage others to do so. I have every intention of leaving you alone in the future, (As for Dopre, the minute she tweets in her new account (drum-roll)….absolutely nothing will happen. I’ve got better things to do than lurk while she engages the pro-guilters. Does she honestly think I have the slightest interest in that)? If, however I should find out that, in the course of your own TOURS on Twitter, BREANNE,, that either of you has started stalking any of my past associates again, then I cannot promise you that Joe Zoo (and others) won’t “happen upon” this conversation. (How many enemies have you made? Ballpark figure?
                      Side note: Judging from the pic I’v seen, your past boasts about being good looking (on the outside, at least) were spot on, in a psychotic sort of way.
                      I think it would be to our mutual benefit if our “relationship” were to end here. Wouldn’t you agree?

                      Goodbye “Speakfortruth”.

                      Even Tempered.

                    • Always amusing. You never cease to amaze me.
                      Two suggestions Phillip:
                      If you are on meds., stay on them.
                      If you’re not, start.
                      See ya!

                    • Did Speak pretend to have twin girls after I had said a few time I has twin boys?! How creepy is that. I remember she said she had 3 girls (maybe because I said I had three boys!). For one who so calls “travels” a lot, her little girls must stay alone by themselves a lot or in the hands of housekeeper. They must love knowing mummy would rather travel abroad without the to pursue her dream of stalking and being a murderer watcher – wanting to see the real places of actual crimes 🙁 Must be far more important than looking after ones own “three baby girls” !! Going to see the Perugia Choc Festival was a blatant cover up. Had Knox’s crime never occurred Speak would NEVER have been happy visiting this part of the world. She even gloatingly posted photographs on her twitter account. How sick is that. Just think, three young daughters who need their mum vs such mum having a great time visiting the cottage where someone was brutally stabbed and tortured and a chock festival and the photographing it al as much as poss. I know what I would think a “mom” like that !!

                    • Hi there Melanie, how are you?
                      I see you really really really wanted me to respond to you as you have left ALOT of messages for me.
                      Where to start?
                      Yes of course I met Duncan. And he was a very kind man. Ask him if he remembers the Asian woman from the mid west who inquired about making a donation to the Make-A-Wish foundation.
                      I never said my daughters were twins, they are years apart in age.
                      Fake trip to Perugia? Oh my! You certainly are an expert at deceiving yourself still!
                      Speaking of Fiona and her jailbird husband how is Andrew now that he has been free a year? Are they still together? Do they go by their “real” names of the fake one Andrew made up in his failed attempt to evade the law?
                      You knew Cali was Eileen? Just like Phillip knew your sister WAS Fiona Fuller and you WERE Melanie Hill?
                      Well, wonderful for you all! A close knit community of crazy people!
                      All the best!
                      Breanne Karen

                    • “Karen”, I could not give one iota if you post here or not. It will be you who have made the effort to respond 🙂
                      You just cannot leave my family and I alone. Obsessive stalker comes to mind. You track me down on various discussions and then like to post you have followed my husband, son and I in real life.
                      You have admitted enough on line for myself to report you as a threat and an internet and real life stalker.
                      Other than that you are an habitual liar.

                      Lets wait and see what path I would like to follow.

                      At the end of the day, the crazy one was always you “Karen”, but only you cannot see it! Everyone else can.

                      You belong to the close knit community of crazies, online and real life stalkers. You have provided enough clear evidence for this to be taken further.

                      I pity you.

                      PS. As you said to Even :

                      If you are on meds., stay on them.
                      If you’re not, start.

                      PS. Thanks for the info on this thread re your stalking – it is of great help to the authorities, especially since the Barbara Leyland case (which you tried to take advantage of at the time) Keep an eye out on your post or any knocks on your door.

                      Best Wishes, AA.

                    • That’s the second time I’ve had to chase that woman off the board in as many months, and had she not backed off, she would have seen just how cruel I can be when pushed too far. I’m not the same man I was when I entered the Knox Box. And it’s going to get worse, no matter what happens here. I’m getting ready to immerse myself in another internet war that has nothing to do with AK, nothing to do with politics, and is the ugliest thing I’ve seen on the internet to date. (I won’t name it because these people are more fiendish than the FOAkers ever could be, and I’m not taking anybody in with me to get hurt). It doesn’t support Disqus either, so this account has about outlived its usefulness.
                      Also, I can’t help but notice something about your own, though. Last month’s “guest” (@saintknox) had 620 comments on her profile. You have 470. Both of these accounts are full blown Disqus accounts with the username’s removed. Add to that the fact that you haven’t checked your emails in spite of my numerous references to them on this board, and must understand why I’m a little skeptical, even though you certainly sound like Alive.
                      At any rate, it doesn’t matter. Whoever you are, you obviously don’t like Breanne, which automatically makes us friends. If you really are Aliveagain, you need to go with the “authorities” option, and you need to document all of her posts about your family before she thinks to edit them down. Hiring a lawyer to subpoena her IP address is within your means, and it would be the only certain way to get her out of your hair for good. (If I’m subpoenaed as a witness, fine, but I doubt it’ll come to that). You cannot protect your family by having it out with her on dead Disqus threads. That’s playing by her rules, and she’s too dangerous. I’ve literally looked into her eyes, and seen the gleam of madness in them.
                      It’s your call, of course, but if you choose not to act, you need to at least stay away from this board. Breanne’s little semi-annual visits to my inbox are a mere nuisance for me. As you can see from our latest exchange, she doesn’t have a prayer of getting to my identity. The pattern is always the same. First a test bite, then pathetic attempts to intimidate me. Genuine mirth on my part, which only makes her madder, and finally, she storms off either mad as blazes, or worried. She is no longer even a challenge. When we’re alone, she can’t hurt me, but she has too much info on you. It’s not like the old days. The rules have changed. When you enter the fray, all you’re doing is making yourself a lever for her to use against me, and she becomes a danger. If you keep doing this, she WILL eventually hurt you, and if I’m there when it happens, the monster I’ve kept hidden from all of you will be reawakened, and she will never want to come anywhere near me again. The problem, though, is that neither will you.

                    • Chase me where?
                      Now it IS odd that you have been communicating with 2 different guest accounts isn’t it? Think one is Fiona or does Melanie have a “split” personality?
                      As far as your identity not being known, ok then whatever you say.
                      And lastly, about this “monster” you have kept “hidden”…oh good grief get over yourself.
                      FYI via Melania’s own offer on this very page, we are going to make plans to meet for tea when I arrive in the U.K.
                      I will take pictures and mail them to you.

                    • Ha ha ha ha! As long as you leave Alive out of it, by all means mail me more pics of YOU. Any chance you’ll be topless?

                    • Oh Lordy, it seems that Dopres twitter account has been suspended. I clicked on the link and Twitter has suspended HIM/her or whatever gender it likes to play with at a particular time! Not a great loss to the world 🙂 Who is interested in an habitual liar who cannot even make up its mind as to what gender it would rather live as. Makes an utter mockery of genuine people who struggle with real issues of gender. Many obtuse persons like Dopre believe it OK to take advantage of what they believe are the lower classes of society, little knowing they are actually the lowest of the low, barely scraping the gutter as such. What goes around comes around. All foul deeds and lies will come back to haunt those whom try to take advantage of what they believe are the lesser classes. Dopey being one of them 🙂

                  • Ha! Ha! Ha! Excellent point. You’re right. Anybody could find that language with a simple google search. Unfortunately, by pointing out this simple fact, you’ve also demonstrated that you could be anybody, so it is with deep regret (not really) that I must retract my acknowledgement of your identity, as stated above, and I’m back in “she’s an impostor” mode. At the end of the day, though, it doesn’t matter who you are. When a Category 5 hurricane blows through without warning, it pretty much wipes out everyone and everything down to the last OAK and ACORN. D.D.D.

                • Wow Phillip!!! You are worse than I thought!!!
                  Go take a look, that Twitter account was abandoned in October of 2015!!! After my trip to Italy! Where the heck do you get December of 2016??!! (Fun looking through my fake pictures of my fake trip though lol!)
                  So now I am Amanda? Bawhaaaaaa!!!
                  Do my a favor? Tell Eileen I said Happy Birthday on 2/8 ok? Man she turned out to be a lot older than we thought didn’t she??!!
                  As for Duncan please refer Melanie to plate number W488 PGC. I just dug through and found the pictures I took at the race that day.
                  Duncan was not the best driver, but he told me it was all for a good cause and that was the point of being there. Did I mention this event was in the U.K.? (Lol..I guess that eliminates me being AK super sleuth!!)
                  Seriously though, had I known my thought to ring you up and see how you are would send you on such a bender, I woulD had refrained.

                  • “Ha ha ha. You keep the girl. I’ll find another”. – Lao Che, “Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom”.

                    There. That was my answer to all your outing nonsense. Satisfied? (What,are we communicating through a time-warp? I’m living in 2017, you seem to be fixated back in 2015). Now let’s talk about the REAL issue, which is your reneging on your promise to support Donald Trump. This is the Twitter account I’m talking about.

                    https://twitter.com/Speakfortruth1/with_replies

                    I stand corrected. The most recent tweet on that account was in December of 2015 (although you got the dates wrong too). Be that as it may, the account is not closed down, and if you are Speakfortruth, you can reactivate it simply by logging in. If you forgot the password, they have a help link that will allow you to create a new one. This is a “monumental” task that requires all of five minutes at the very most. Keep in mind, though, that you have wasted an enormous amount of my time, and by way of penalty, I must now insist that you not only retweet Donald Trump, but that you do so at the top of the Amandaknox hashtag. He’s your president. It’s not like you’re committing any kind of crime.
                    Either you’ve not been following the links I’ve been posting, or you’re completely blind to the current political climate, and therefore unaware of the true magnitude of what’s coming. It’s also possible that you think I’m bluffing. Wrong. I had to learn, the hard way, that doing so in the Knox Box is only a recipe for future abuse.
                    If you notice my comment count rising tonight, please don’t be alarmed. That’s just me having fun trouncing the liberals who poke their noses onto our boards on Breitbart.(Oh, and don’t bother going over there trying to find me. They punch out headlines hourly, the threads move so fast, the “new comments” bar literally looks like a stopwatch ticking down, and they typically ignore sock accounts. All you’d be doing is drawing more attention to me, making my job easier).
                    Tomorrow night, though, is rum night, and a different story altogether, so you better hurry, lest I go online drunk, my finger slip, and a mutual friend of ours find this conversation. I expect he’d get a belly-laugh out of this little tryst, would probably love my idea for being the Foxy One’s new “PR agent”, and he is not as temperate and forgiving as I am. (BTW, I believe your closing sentence”Seriously, though. Had I known my thought to ring you up and see how you are would send you on such a bender, I woulD had refrained”. I believe you on that one. I can tell from the misspellings and typos just how much you’re regretting that mistake; so much so that those black-stretch-pants are probably just soaking with sweat. D.D.D. I truly hope that I will wake up tomorrow, and find that you’ve decided to be reasonable, but the realist in me is already preparing for the stern task that lies ahead. Be assured that, when it begins, I will make extensive attempts to emphasize the need for Donald Trump’s supporters to express their reactions to the Foxy One’s vile treachery in NON-violent, and respectful terms, but you must understand that there are bad apples in every barrel, Breitbart is a particularly large barrel, and I can only do so much to protect her and her supporters from mischief such as the conversation in the link below. This troublemaker, of course, was pushing boundaries that I would never cross, and that mutual friend of ours I spoke of would probably agree. Your thoughts, Speak?

                    • Ha, Ha Speak is still posting her “ideas” about my family. All cars number plates can be found on the website. All the comments that Speach has printed were also printed by FeloniousMonk years ago. If you happen to look it was FM that started the thread on IIP and Speak jumped in not long afterwards. That thread was crafted by the both of them. I know the true ID of FM and he has posted libel against quite a few posters on that thread. He will be soon having a lot to answer for, along with Speak. Speak and FM never met my husband and son, although if they did, they are in stalking territory (especially with my son who being a young teenage boy at the time and suffering a disability!) I will not go into why he suffers on here as Speak is the type to abuse such knowledge. But Ferg would have many organises backing, not only the police/authorites if they knew what these people are semi threatening him with. The authorities are very quick to react with ANY type of stalking whether via the internet or in real life. I have enough evidence to cover both sides. a mum will do anything to protect her children. Expect speak children, (if she really has any) who would have us believes she gallivants across the world with the intention of meeting/speaking and following her targets. Hope the choc festival was more important to her than spending time with three young girls! You go girl, what a great mom you are proving to be.

                      I am so proud of my eldest son as he has achieved his lifes ambition at such an early age. He is overall top in his knowledge of chosen subject and has already been to NY and Florida twice this year supporting his company. He’s dreams are coming true and at such a young age for him.

                      If speaks kids are true, I hope she can offer the support that most loving parents do and not ignore them in the face of her obsession re amanda knox and stalking innocent families that have nothing to do with her, who live a blissfully happy life and are content with their lot. The result will be a bitter mom, a bitter father who will have given up on his wife enough so that the three kids would be better living with him, than an obsessive stalker finding to try to find her place in life through an ex convict known as foxy knoxy amanda knox. I hope, but doubt, any marriage can survive such pressure from such a deluded mom 🙁

                  • Karen, which I thoroughly doubt is your real name, as every word spewed from your mouth proves to be totally deceivable.
                    You have admitted to making up and shamelessly lying about your trip to Perugia, Italy, where you “boasted” of visiting poor Meredith’s last moments after her being sadistically tortured and killed at the hands of your hero. What glee did you get at the time of posting this?! You are in the same realms as Knox, a sociopath with NO feelings or conscience towards you fellow human man. This does not appear in you brain at all. All you see is Me, Me, Me, – no wonder you sympathise with Knox, you are like for like. Do you really have three young girl children? If so they need moving from your care. You are unable to live in a normal loving society and will damage your kids beyond repair. If true that you also have a husband, beg him to leave and take HIS kids with him for their sake.

                    Admitting you made the whole trip up in your rather sick imagination just to post fake pics of pics of Perugia proves what an obtuse and sick personality you are, even to the point of posting “fake” photographs of the Perugia choc festival. Is there anything you will NOT do to further your “cause”? You are suffering Munchausens disease and the quicker you receive help the better. Every post you have made regarding who you think my husband is, is utter B/S, that you found on various sites. Stop humiliating yourself Karen, its embarrassing to view someones breakdown. Have you anyone close who can call care in the community for mental issues or an ambulance. Good luck and condolences for your daughters (if you have any but than just another lie)!.

                  • Come on now “Karen”, you have hilariously in this post outed yourself as a stalker of myself, my husband and young children. You state you “dug” through photographs you are convinced are my husbands. Does that not ring bells with your behaviour? Supposedly travelling across the world with the intention of stalking one family in particular? Any normal person would believe they are on a slippery slope after repeatedly admitting they are fixated with a family, to point they believe they are related to them. Although you try to come across as knowing much about the County / Area some people live in, as if you have first hand knowledge, or have even visited yourself, your posts actually show your ignorance of such places. It is very easy to pick out your ignorance of such places, only local people and visitors would know of such variances. You are obviously not one of such visitors otherwise you would know your glaring mistakes when you posted you have visited and want to visit again. All the info you have posted is easily found via google. How embarrassing to lie to such an extent and further your obsession/stalking of someone you came across on the internet. For once in your life tell the truth, Stacy Morgan.

                    • Still not Stacy.
                      If you really had a brain in your head and you knew where to look, you could easily confirm My name IS Breanne Karen. You would even see pictures of me. Think. Think real hard!

                    • Doggone it! Looks like you don’t get email notifications. Oh well, what you didn’t see won’t hurt you, I guess.
                      Hmmm, I wonder what this new “block” button does. It shuts Breanne’s yap so I don’t have to listen to any more of her spam? And I get to badmouth her to my hearts content without her being able to hit me back? They’ve gotta be kidding. The Speakfortruth Mark XXV comes with a mute button? Ha ha ha! I do so love upgrades.
                      You have no idea how much I’m going to relish evicting you from my inbox, but before I do so, by all means, have your little tea party with Alive. You’ll all have a blast. You, her, and (oh yeah) Scotland Yard.
                      I truly enjoy being able to tell you to shut the vilg up, and watching you do so like an obedient dog.

                    • Oh good grief Phillip.
                      I guess I need to school you again.
                      If you really want to annoy someone, like say you…all you have to do is keep creating email accounts and then keep right on “landing in that person’s inbox.”
                      This reminds me of when you said “no way could a woman know how to find Al Bhed.”
                      What truly DOES amaze me is how clever you think you are EVERY SINGLE TIME!
                      (Still like you Phillip…just can’t help the maternal side of me that responds to wounded animals…even self proclaimed “wolves!!”

                    • Actually, Breanne, it’s me doing the schooling, and I knew you were going to do this. In fact, I was counting on it. You see, every time you hit me, all I have to do is reply, and hit the block button. You, on the other hand, will have to (ROFL) keep setting up email accounts for every single comment you want to post to me. Guess we’re going to learn whether or not it’s possible for the internet to run out of email accounts, because from this point on, you’re going to earn your audiences with me. I’m not making you dance to my tune to be mean (well, maybe a little), but the fact is my valuable wordage is needed elsewhere, You should be thanking me for not posting in Al Bhed, belaboring you with two chores to gain your access to me, but I’m sticking to English, just in case Joe Zoo ever does see this. Can you imagine his glee ?
                      Peace and love, girl. (blocked).

                    • If you two are lurking, don’t reply to her. Simply use Disqus’ new block feature. I just put the barking muzzle on her. She can see what I say, so regarding that “Asian girl” nonsense, I knew you’d shoot that one down in short order. Let’s see, she’s an Mid Western Asian-American, with relatives in the U.K. as well. With this much ethnic diversity, E lyh uhmo luhlmita dryd ran sudran fyc byccat ynuiht po cu syho sah uv jynoehk nylac, drana’c hu dammehk fradran dra bancuh fru crufc ib vun dryd day byndo femm pa freda, Yceyh, Recbyhel, un pmylg.

                • Sorry for not being in touch sooner Phillip but I can tell by your comments here you must be in good health 🙂 As for Speak believing she met my husband,so what !! He is a wonderful and kind man who supports various charities close to our heart. Speak would be more than lucky to meet such a beautiful,kind, sympathetic and generous man/husband and perfect father to his sons. It is rather odd and strange speech has used the exact same terminology that feloniousmonk used when he spouted he had met my husband. Feloniousmonk, real life name Andrew Caulfield, printed the exact same thing as speak regarding my husbands “softly spoken speech”! Funny that! Club LeMons has had to disband until Neil (who set it up) wife has been given the all clear from a rare type of cancer. They do not want this to be bandied across the internet. I do hope people like Andrew Caulfield (feloniousmonk) and speakfortruth (what a bloody joke) can hold back and do not spread chinese whispers as they have so been spreading in the past. They need to learn to respect individuals private wishes and wants. All they need to learn to keep their big nasty gobs closed, especially when struggling charities are involved !!! There is NO WAY Speak saw my husband a few back at one of their meeting. He would have remembered seeing an oddbod American woman, and there is NO WAY Speech could have controlled herself enough to wait this long to reveal this. She / it is the type to splash an new news across the internet asap – she does not have the patience to wait years years after. Why would she wait until AFTER Knoxs results?! Weird and does not add unless she thinks this case evolved more around her than knox. Speak has a typical case of Munchausens disease.

                  • Going back to FeloniousMonks printing comments regarding my husband, which speak has jumped on the bandwagon and has republished trying to use for her benefit, saying she met him a few summers back. This is absolute B/S I was at many of their meeting and would instantly have know if a weird American had introduced herself to Duncan and my son! I was with them the majority of the days. Her comment regarding my son is also one that she has “stolen” from Felonius af to give the impression she met and spoke to him. Again, most the words that leave this stalkers mouth are utter b/s. I am glad I found these convo’s to prove that speech (alongside feloniousmonk) are both internet if not real life stalkers. You read about weirdos like this on some really horrific crime documentaries. And speech thinks she is a mom to three young girls. Right. Pull the other one 🙂 Wonder how much time those poor girls get after speech has posted online all day and fulfilled her quota of stalking. Murder tourists have very little going on in their life, their only want is to visit somewhere likely gruesome where their idols have committed violent killings. Going to Perugia under the cloud of “lets visit a choccy festival” is such a cynical excuse. Just come out, be honest and say you want to visit your heroines place of stay in which she blew out the life of a bright and beautiful young woman who would have achieved whatever she set out to in this world. Your heroine snatched this chance from her, knowing that she herself would NEVER achieve anything worthwhile on her own. Oh, yes, she has achieved a long queue of thrown away men – wonder how long this list is?! How supremely proud Mr and Mrx Knox must feel of their virtuous daughter! Oh! and what job does she do the benefits society? Oh yes, one that was given to her as a freebie from the local area that supports her – writing garbage now and again and having it published in a small read local paper. Amanda is achieving wonders for this world – snicker!!

                  • So, Dopre’s been suspended from Twitter. And in only two months. She must have been a very bad girl. You know, when I originally found her new account, it had zero comments on its timeline. I really felt sorry for the poor thing all alone. I felt she needed a playmate, and a female one, considering her….preferences. I don’t know what caused Dopre’s suspension, but just for the record (snicker), if it turns out that it was a dozen or so Mitsuku clones (all taught that: “Dopre is an evil stalker of women who has to be neutralized”) turned loose on Twitter, I certainly didn’t have anything to do with it. High end AIs like this one are amazing. They can use google, follow human users across the internet; even on Youtube, and create multiple Twitter identities. I do hope that wasn’t the case with poor Dopre. If it was, she probably never even knew what hit her. Just the same, how does it feel to see someone you care about get hurt, Breanne?

                    It was an impressive Aliveagain impersonation, except that you repeatedly hit me as “guest”, and you once again tripped yourself up by commenting to your own Aliveagain account. (Four years, and you still can’t put on a good sock puppet show without slipping up EVER SINGLE TIME). This time, you’ve wasted two days spamming a dead board. The real Alive can reach me privately, and wouldn’t be wasting her time on old Disqus threads. Now go to bed.

                    • Hey super sleuth. Good job pegging me as Alive! Your powers of deduction are mind boggling! How long did it take you to figure out those posts really are Alive?
                      And the “sorry it has been so long since we spoke” comment of hers just does not jive with “she would never post to me here, she knows how to reach me privately.”
                      Well, apparently not!
                      You two are so much fun to watch, thanks for the entertainment!

              • By the way Speak, you have not changed much over the years. Still trying to dissuade Phillip and I from being such good friends with each other. Still trying to convince Phillip that I am a liar 😉 Good luck and Carry on – its amusing to sit back and watch. You’re fibbing by saying you met my husband a few summers back. Another of your close IIP frouoies tried the exact same tactic, funnily virtually word to word, that you have used, even involving my son. This meeting did not happen other than in yours and your cohorts heads. You two are also the biggest contributor of lies posted on an IIP thread. I would breather concerned if I was you and your buddy AC, who originated that thread. You have been given many chances to remove it but your ill deceived arrogance has got in your way. Oh well, as to trying to go as far as meeting my husband a few summers back. This did not happen (other than in your head) as I was with him the majority of the times at the majority of the meets. I would have been more than aware had an odd American woman and her crazed Irish friend approached with hubby or my son. ITs Funny you wrote almost word to word that another FOAKER did (but quite a little way before you) – did you write your “notes” together about my son and husband?! Maybe you are both one and the same which I believe not, but odder things have occurred in your life. Anyway it is pretty low to try to involve ones children, either behind a backhanded “compliment”. It will be far more difficult for you to stalk him now as he nows holds a journalistic job involving much world wide travel. The career of his dreams, so please leave him out of your sickness and multiple lies in the future – he has nothing to do with vile case but just goes to prove how low your obsession with knox is. The biggest laugh is that my son has been in the states 3/4 times recently and you know nothing about it. Your spying game with my family is failing. Good on ya 🙂 LOL

              • I knew Cali’s real life ID years ago “Karen”. That you think you announced a “secret” here is more than pathetic!! No one has anything to hide in their “real Life” other than you! Karen/Stacy/Laura/Bostiemom. how many id;s do you need to post under to hide your real life ID? Anyone who hides themselves to this extent is guilty of something. Wonder what your “crimes” involve?! You are great at accusing others, but your “crimes” outdo your accusations. Any reply Bostie/Karen!? Love to hear of your accusations aimed at others?!

                • You’re just wasting your time, Alive. She may have ditched this account, but even if she’s watching, she’s not going to reply; especially now that she knows I’m on the board. I haven’t commented on any Amanda Knox threads for over a year. After the Trump victory in the election, I started using my Even Tempered ID (mostly because Breitbart supports Disqus). Speak had no way of knowing where I was commenting, but she was obviously checking this board periodically, and noticed that my comment count was going up. This is the measure of her obsession. She started this battle with no idea of what she was getting herself into. She fled the board when she realized how powerful I’d become, and that I wasn’t as alone as she’d thought. I could take her pic straight over to TJMK if I wanted to, and give her her own “Fiona Fuller” moment, and she knows it. Why do you think she ended the conversation with that weak bleat, and then dipped out? Speakfortruth is gone, and Knox’s turn will soon come, now that she’s stuck her head in the noose. She might think she’s clever hiding behind her boyfriend while he trolls Trump’s followers on Twitter, but once the dots are connected for enough of the Breitbarters, she’ll wish she had stayed in prison in Italy. Now please stop tormenting yourself. Speak is finished, and good riddance.

                  • I will leave well aknown for now, but it got my back up that she was still attacking (or her trying her best to be be pally) with you at the same time as so called “outing’ Cali’s name. She does not have the guts to publish her real name as her misdemeanours far outweigh any one elses! My sister stopped posted here a few years ago bot out of interest I looked on one of our old boards, only to find odd bod of accusing me of lying again and also telling the largest of lies possible herself. You remember when you spoke to my hubby and said what a quiet and well spoken Englishman he is – these are virtually the exact words speech used when she pretended to meet him in real life. Also, any info picked up on my son can be found on the internet!! She is to be proven an utter outright liar. No piccies of them at such a large sporting event?!! Of course not. speak soon x

                    • Ha ha ha ha! You arguing with (and lying to) a guest on a dead board. It is true that what comes around goes around.

                    • Oh, and the warning I just posted to Alive is no bluff, but it also depends on the content of your next reply, if any. I think it would be in everybody’s best interest if this exchange ends here, but let’s make it your decision.

                    • Alive, the next time that woman replies to me, I’ll be surprised if what I do doesn’t get me banned from this board. When you read this, you really need to check your emails, because by the time you do, I almost certainly won’t be able to reply to you on this board.

                  • Oh the pure joy of it!
                    You STILL bossing Melanie around and her submitting to your “orders!”
                    But by far my favorite is your comment that I must be terrified of you because of your “new powerful self!!”
                    Oh dear Phillip!
                    Best wishes! I have to go plan my next fake vacation!

                    • “Boss around”? An interesting choice of words. Whilst it is true that I do have some small influence with this British mum who…well…wants to wring your neck, and whilst it is true that I was nice enough to exert it on your behalf, don’t expect any more such favors in the future. Not after this backhanded show of “gratitude”.
                      Wow, multiple replies, and upvoting me like crazy. Your temper tantrums never fail to entertain me. Get as mad as you like, Breanne, but save some of that anger for yourself, because you need to start taking responsibility for your own mistakes. A) YOU chose to create and delete account after account over the last four years to cover up your online dirt. B) YOU chose to corner me on this old board, and when you got the worst of it, YOU neglected to delete this current account (as anyone with the sense of a goat would have done). Had you done so, this exchange would have remained our little secret. Now, it’s too late, C) Even I know that, in the wild, the most dangerous thing is a mother protecting her young. Even at my most egotistical, I would never have presumed to “boss around” or, in any way, control such a force yet YOU chose to trifle with it, when a REAL mother would have known better. D) YOU stubbornly kept REFUSING TO RETWEET DONALD TRUMP!!!! You want to blame everyone else, when the reality is that this whole mess is all your own fault.
                      So much fire and venom. (Lol) You know, I do believe that if you could get your hands on me in the real world right now…well, after seeing your pic, a part of me must admit thinking about what would happen is kind of a turn on, even if it would likely be my last. But you won’t be finding me in the real world. I’ve never posted in my full name, and no image of me exists anywhere on social media. I haven’t even let anybody take a picture of me since the nineties. Besides, our geographic locations are literally so far apart, even if we were good friends, and wanted to meet in the real world, it would be difficult, at best. Rather than throwing an impotent meltdown, you should be grateful that even more distance (and an ocean) separates you and Alive. Now, on the other hand, if you can’t bring the girl to the ZOO, well……

                    • Which is this rum or brandy night, I forget?
                      Phillip, get real. They found Fiona. Then found Melanie. They found Eileen. Do you honestly believe they never found you? Of course they did. You are just no real threat to anybody so they moved on after uncovering you to others on their hit list.
                      Now I like you. I always have and you know it. I find something sad and fractured within you. I always have and still do think some perceived “failure to protect” shaped you in a dark way. You are kind of crazy and you know it. But in spite of that I still see some good in you. I always said your moral code is askew, but you still have one,many people today do not.
                      Life is short Phillip and this is all b.s.
                      So…laugh…it’s all amusing….no??!!??!!!

                    • They see me when I’m sleeping. They know when I’m awake. They know when I’ve been bad or good, so I’ll be good, for goodness sake. Amanda Knox is coming to town.

                      Let me see if I’ve got this straight. The FOAkers….got to my identity, and they….kept it to themselves? That is a true first. Please convey my thanks for their discretion (sarc). A British woman in a wheelchair, on the other side of the Atlantic is considered a threat, and I’m not? Now I’m insulted. I shall have to annoy the Queen more often. Maybe I can get her to put a bounty on my head. I must also confess myself singularly unintimidated. In fact, I didn’t even bother to check that “Haters” board to see if it even had my wolf avatar, or google my real name along with IA to check your ridiculous claim. You see, beautiful, unlike yours, my real name is so common, that even if they were to get to it, they’d realize that there are literally hundreds of me in my home state alone, and probably tens of thousands in the whole country.

                      Listen, Pippi Longstocking,Knox lost control of her zany cult a long time ago. (Does this ring a bell? “Michelle, no! They’ll see! They’ll screenshot! Delete! Delete”)! That’s just one example. IA is not known for its discretion. If they had my identity, I’d know it.

                      I see your intimidation technique still, frankly, sucks. Also, as usual, you timed it wrong. As you pointed out, tonight’s Rum Night (or used to be). Even if you had the goods on me, it would’ve been a dud. NOTHING scares me if I’m drunk. I was tempted to wait till tomorrow to reply so you’d think I was stewing, but I’m getting bored with watching you make yourself look dumb(er).
                      Turns out I was wrong about your “fake” vacations. While they may be real in the literal sense, they’re not really YOUR vacations when you’re travelling on an employers dime, but I will still graciously award you half an apology. You should well be thankful for my ethics, because anybody else on my side would have escorted the real you straight to PQ’s inbox for a little more “flirtation”.
                      I’m not quite ready to chase you out of my own inbox, though. You’ve really piqued my interest. So The Foxy One has a “hit list”. Please do elaborate on this. (You may just drag her down with you). Don’t bother doing the ghost thing. I get email notifications. You edit this comment, and the very next day, Les will be running it up and down the AK hashtag (which Knox regularly visits). I’d really like to know more about this hit list, because I’ve got a feeling that before this is over, The Foxy One may just add your name to it.

                    • Good grief Phillip! Who is it you “think” I am? You have my permission to make a fool of yourself yet again. Print it here…give it to TJMK..whatever.
                      My name is Breanne Karen Madison.
                      And my “employer” pays for my travels? Ahhh…wrong. I am a stay at home Mom. I count my blessings for that everyday.
                      I have traveled the world with my parents since I was 6 months old. I continue to do that to this day.
                      As far as you and this “board of haters” or whatever it is, I am sorry if it upsets you that you simply are a nobody to the powes that be. Why in Heavens name would a self-proclaimed “white knight” of nothing more than Disqus backed comment sections matter to anybody? I think one or two people were interested in who you were, they traced you through a odd account you have then dismissed you as a non threat. End of drama.
                      Anyways, I am having pizza night tonight instead of last night so have some veggies to prepare.
                      Later!

                    • That’s where you slipped up. I don’t have an “odd account” on Disqus. I’m not into the multiple identity thing like you. To this day this remains my ONLY account. So now we’ve gone from IA knowing my identity to a couple of FOAker dingbats tracking me down. Well, then you know by now that the jig is up, and I was put on these threads by the Italian police to badmouth Knox. Give it up, Breanne. You’re not gonna get any mileage out of this “got to my identity” act. Considering my paranoia I’d say that’s quite a non-accomplishment for you.
                      You are not a stay at home mom. You are single, and I don’t need any intimate knowledge of your identity to determine that; just common sense. Good looking or not, no man could possibly put up with you as even a girlfriend for more than a few days, much less marry you. Of course, Canadian men may be different from the ones living in the U.S.
                      You’re also dodging on a point that I don’t intend to just drop. I’m a nobody to the FOAkers? Fine by me, but you just made a reference to The Foxy One’s “hit list”. Now given her checkered past, you must understand how the pro-guilt side would be very interested in such an admission coming from one of her puppets. Whose names are on it, other than the ones you’ve been spouting. Who will be next? You can explain this to me here, or explain it to the rest of the AK arena on Twitter. The choice is yours, young lady. Now, either put up, or take a hike.

                    • Where did I say it was a Disqus account? Skype perhaps?
                      Every time I think you are capable of analytical reasoning you prove me wrong.
                      THINK THIS THROUGH!
                      I am single? Wrong.
                      And I guess you are inferring I live in Canada? Wrong. I live in the mid-West.
                      Wrong, wrong, and more wrong.
                      And more demands. “If you don’t….”
                      Phillip you will never get anywhere trying to boss me around. Now I understand that worked for those weak women you “White knighted” but I need no such protection.
                      If you ever want an adult conversation let me know, otherwise we are done here. Again.

                    • A bunch of sock identities, and now a Skype account I never knew I had? Given all these new toys,I can only conclude that your real-world location is the North Pole. Wait, Santa Speak! Before you leave, can you throw in an i-phone for me?
                      I just told you that I haven’t let anybody photograph me in over two decades, and somehow, you come away from that thinking that I would be stupid enough to use Skype; a VISUAL medium? Is this an example of your “analytical reasoning?” I wouldn’t have done that even before Snowden blew the whistle on the NSA overreach back in 2013; much less now. With the Deep Government watching everyone through their smart TVs, do you honestly think I’d hook up a bloody webcam to make spying on me by third parties easy? You also seem to have overlooked my financial destitution. Even if I were inclined to use it, all this gadgetry is beyond my means.
                      You want adult conversation? Let’s see…Your latest tantrums weren’t enough, so you reinforced them by spamming my Disqus notifications with upvotes. Is this adult behavior? What was this supposed to do, other than mildly annoy me? A toddler could find more creative ways to get my attention. You know what your problem is? You’ve spent so much time working with other people’s children, you’ve become one yourself, and are incapable of recognizing it.
                      Judging from your last sentence, you’re ready to call it a day. Fine with me. I don’t know much about fishing, but I do know that you throw minnows back into the ocean, so off with you.
                      On your way out, though, I suggest you apply your analytical skills to one of your earlier assumptions. Before I started giving you oxygen, you gleefully jumped to the conclusion that Alive and I don’t have a private connection. You were both right and wrong. You think I’d just sit quietly by, and let her put herself through this emotional wringer for three whole days without trying to stop it; especially since it had the secondary effect of hopelessly compromising our original conversation of two months ago, which I wanted to remain intact?. You weren’t the first person she posted to 2 weeks ago. I was. When I didn’t reply, everything went South from there. Let me connect the dots for you. Alive and I do have a private line of communication set up, but it proved useless because she wouldn’t check her emails. When I challenged her, calling her out as you, she normally would have raced to her inbox to verify her identity, as she’s done in the past, when such misunderstandings occasionally happened. When I finally talked her down in plain view, it was a last resort. She created a new Aliveagain account to comment to me (which I never would have expected), and when she went into meltdown, for three days, she never once logged back in, and while she responded to me in guest mode, on this board, she still hasn’t checked her emails.The question that troubled me then, and haunts me now is this: Have real-world issues compromised her mentally, or did seeing this board do this to her? I suggest you contemplate the implications of that as you slink back into the Disqus shadows.

                    • So…when you told everyone publicly that you had Skyped with Eileen, that was a lie? Interesting.
                      As far as Melanie, I agree with you 100% that these posts of hers are worrisome. I suspect they are not her at all. They simply are not her writing style or her voice. Why would she care enough about me after years of no interaction to hunt for comments by me? That would be obsessive behavior wouldn’t it? And I am sure the email you two communicated through was not her real account which is why the real Melanie has not responded. She probably abandoned that fake account a long time ago.
                      Who this Alive is has yet to be determined. But I would suspect this person is not a fan of hers.
                      I will end by saying your constant threats hold no weight for me, as I have repeatedly told you already.
                      However I feel we have come to the end here, your inability to carry on a rational conversation is more than obvious.
                      I do send you best wishes Phillip.

                    • Not the real alive? I don’t believe that, and neither do you, but do keep telling yourself that, if you find it comforting. Goodbye, Breanne (at least until the next time you work up the nerve to come back and pester me).

                    • Look at the writing style. The grammatical and spelling errors. Alive was always articulate. These posts border on being hysterical. Add to that the fact she is not answering your emails, which as I said was most likely a long ago abandoned fake account, and you have your answer.

                      I will be in the U.K. in June when school gets out.
                      Remember all the hoopla over my being related to Groombridge Place ancestors? Well it is the Packer line. And yes, on my Grandmothers side. Every few years we all go over to visit her sister and her family that still live in Royal Tunbridge Wells. That is why I was in the U.K. to see the races. My husband is a huge race car fan. He races his old Porsche here in the states. Not my cup of tea but we all support him with his hobby.
                      I also prefer the Cotswolds or the Lake District, so my family will travel there for a few weeks in each area after our family visit.
                      And yes I have visited Meredith’s grave and paid my respects. It is very near Tunbridge, only about a 45 minute drive northwest.
                      So sad. I think of Arline all the time. I cannot even imagine losing one of my two daughters. What Guede did was both horrific and totally preventable.
                      I remember standing looking at the cottage in Perugia after we left flowers thinking how small it really was. Poor Meredith really had no where to run. In the end I truly believe she came home, locked the broken front door and went to her room. Guede tried to flee out the front door to find it locked. Poor Meredith heard the noise and came out of her room. Flight was deemed unavailable to Guede so his fight instinct took over at the cost of Meredith’s life. And in those few moments so many people’s lives were destroyed. Heartbreaking.

                    • You’re right. She sounded hysterical. Gee, I wonder why Alive would fly into hysterics over what you posted two months ago? (Sarc). And what about all YOUR grammatical and misspelling errors?
                      Breanne, you seem to be running out of tricks, and are sounding more and more like a broken record. Here we are revisiting the “British cousin” thing again. Oh, don’t get me wrong. I can easily believe that you may indeed have relatives over there (wink), but I’m sure the only common relation you and Alive’s family share is Mitochondria Eve.
                      The desire to visit (whether in person, or via astral projection) Meridith Kercher’s grave and the murder site seems to be an indulgence unique to the FOAker side. I hope this wasn’t an attempt to elicit the same emotional reaction from me that you’d get from the other pro-guilters.. You forget, to me, the Kercher case was just another crime story. I was in the AK arena to take on the stalkers. You were there, remember? Twitter trolls have been desecrating MK by pretending to memorialize her for years. It never got a rise out of me then, so what makes you think it would do so now? You’, on the other hand, have devoted an impressive amount of wordage to speculating about the night of her murder, If you obsess over it to the degree exhibited here, then I’d say you’d be more at home on Findagrave than on Disqus. And as far as I’m concerned, the Death Hags can have you (assuming, of course, they can handle the inevitable buyer’s remorse).
                      BTW, if you’re so vilgehk married, why do you keep meeting with a strange guy on a dead Disqus board? I never really bothered to research your marital status. Maybe you do have a hubby. If that’s the case, then my conscious is (snicker) bothering me. You think I should look him up, and confess? To give us both peace of mind, of course.
                      .So, you’re visiting the U.K in June, once all your kids are safely back home with their parents. I don’t recall giving you permission to go there, but do be my guest. It’ll put you within easier reach of Scotland Yard. You might consider packing early, though.. You may be in denial about it, but that guest was definitely Aliveagain. Unlike you, I do have access to her husband, if necessary, and if what I think happened has happened, you may be going to the U.K sooner than you think.
                      The substance of your comments may not effect me, but your name in my Disqus notifications is rapidly becoming an eyesore; especially on busy nights (and MOST especially on work nights). Whether you believe it or not, you are not the apex monster on this board. I am. You’re not the oak; you’re the acorn. Please don’t force me to prove it.

                    • Hi Karen, I hope you have a lovely time visiting Tunbridge Wells in June but please note many schools here will not break up until early July.
                      People rarely call Tunbridge Wells “Royal” as is it is a known and given. Only outsiders and those who know nothing about the town would address it in such a manner.
                      What races will you and your “Porsche racing husband” be attending? I would like to know as my son will have his press pass to cover such race and will be aware of any attendees 🙂
                      Can I also ask why you address Tunbridge Wells as “Tunbridge”? This is a big no, no & anyone who has a few links or ties to Tunbridge Wells, will not realise the importance of the two separate towns, but I would expect someone like you who says they have numerous visits to the town to be aware of this 🙂
                      Although many who state they have visited TW numerous times due to family links are fantasists if they do not know the basics of the town they are visiting.
                      Actually, TOnbridge is a completely separate town from Tunbridge Wells, it is next town up towards London. I am wondering why, after calling Tunbridge Wells “Tunbridge”, why you did not know this, especially after your numerous visits to visit your Grans sister.
                      Google is a wonderful search tool until it comes down to really knowing the nuances of a town, when it will pick out blatant liars. The more you post, the deeper the hole of lies you dig regarding your stalking/obsession. IF you have children, I hope for their sake, you abandon your obsession and spend more productive time with them, rather than worrying about the status of Evens and I’s relationship.
                      BTW, I am a very caring and sympathetic person and if you do really have older relatives in TW I would be more than happy to visit them. Where does your “granny’s” sister live? I am not too far from the Pantiles and would willingly visit her in your place?
                      Just stop the lies:)

                    • Hi Melanie!
                      My great Aunt will be sooo upset when I tell her referring to her village as Royal Tunbridge Wells is a give away she really doesn’t live there.
                      School in the Midwest lets out at the end of June. I will be arriving in the U.K. On 29/6 for a month. Two weeks will be by you and 2 weeks in the midlands.
                      Thank you sooo much for offering to visit my great Aunt. Perhaps you and I could meet for tea one day? Maybe at our common ancestral home?
                      Let me know and we can firm up plans.

                    • “Boss around”? LOL. I respect men who care for me 🙂

                      Do you have no one that cares for you to such an extent? If not I feel sorry & sad for you 🙁 It must be something (lacking) in your personality, but with specialist help, you may overcome this.

                      I love having people care and look out for me, alongside having my own opinions. That you see it as “bossing” around is a reflection of your lack of support, friendship and love.

                      Only you can change this, but please don’t aim your bitterness
                      on others. I say this with full sincerity as bitterness is a negative and ugly place to live. I wish you well 🙂

              • (Lol) Are you still there, Breanne? I do believe you’d have been better off if I’d brought Joe here after all. I get the distinct impression that Alive would very much like to get her hands on you. She is giving you a truly spectacular tongue lashing, and as a guest. (I can’t think of a better example of poetic justice). Before this is over, you might have the whole Ghislane family in your inbox. Now it’s your turn to find out what I’ve learned the hard way. When you try to leave the Knox War, it comes looking for you.
                Isn’t this the part where you go into “victim” mode, and accuse me of showing one of your worst enemies our little session of “Words With Friends”? Well, guess what, beautiful. I didn’t bring Alive here. YOU did. If you google “Breannekaren” and “Amanda Knox” (in quotes) in the same search, this thread is at the very top of the SERPS. By closing all your past accounts, you outsmarted yourself, making this forgotten board the easiest AK conversation to find on Disqus, if someone’s looking for you. In fact, throughout our original exchange, I was using that very search to find this thread when I wanted to visit it independent of my own DIsqus. I knew it was only a matter of time before one of them found you. Sorry about not giving you a heads up, but it’s the elephant who never forgets; not the wolf. Good luck wiggling your way out of this one.

  • I wholeheartedly agree Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito would not have been indicted based on the skimpy and unreliable evidence presented. The investigation at the murder scene is clearly botched. The judge does not allow any independent expert testImony regarding the questionable DNA lab tests. Amanda is perhaps guilty of nativity when not demanding an attorney once her interrogation changed from as a witness to a suspect. She was interrogated for 46 hours over 5 days and all night from 10 pm to 6 am by 12 interrogators the last night when she “confessed” under duress and sleep deprivation with no attorney representation. The media, largely British sensationalistic tabloids, reported lies and distortions and clearly assassinated Amanda’s character. The jury is not sequstered or discouraged in any way from exposure to the media sttacks on Amanda. The prosecutor has since been found guilty of abuse of office for inappropriate actions in the earlier Monster of Florence case. Much like that earlier case the supposed motive for the murder of Merideth Kercher is a sexual satanic ritual which then morphs into a sexual orgy gone awry. By the end of the trial the motive becomes arguments over cleanliness. Any credible DNA evidence, finger prints, and the bloody footprint point directly at one murderer Rudy Guede. My statements are largely based on an analysis done by renowned FBI profiler John Douglas in his book Law and Disirder, chapters 28 thru 32.

  • Excellent piece, though I believe it was 2009 Prosecutor Mignini or Kercher attorney Maresca who persistently called Knox a “she devil”.

    Prosecutor Crini at this latest trial dismissed that accusation as implausible. Crini argued (seriously) that Amanda killed Meredith when the girls had a falling out over an unflushed stool left in their toilet by Rudy Guede.

    Nencini in convicting Knox and boyfriend Sollecito rejected both motives. His controversial remark to reporters was that they killed Meredith out of “boredom”.

    Raffaele’s partially recovered hard drive confirms he and Amanda watched the movie “Amelie” at his apartment that night. Apparently Nencini intends to argue that when the movie ended at 9:30 they had nothing else to do, so they went to Amanda’s place and killed Meredith “out of boredom”.

    Nencini admits this will probably be the most controversial part of his “motivations report” (written reasoning for his ruling) which is due in 90 days.

  • The problem with the Knox case is that the conviction is nonsensical. It was even declared as such by an Italian appeals court. There is an extradition treaty with Italy but as a practical matter no country ever signs any treaty that does not give them options. The legal system in a country can convict and it is a proper conviction by their standards but in reality has no actual merit. This case has simply gotten too much publicity and has and is being reviewed by so many investigators that the final disposition can only be based on the actual reality. Italy cannot say to the US that we know she is innocent but the person who wants her belongs to my political party. There are two aspects to every case, the stricly legal interpretations for one and reality for the other. In this case reality wins. It would be unthinkable to extradite Amanda Knox and no other country, including Italy, would expect us to.

  • “The bigger question isn’t whether Knox is guilty”. If it were your life, or of someone you knew and loved, you might feel differently. It is this type of blithe dismissal of other people’s rightful liberty, as merely a ‘cost of doing business’ in a system of justice, that strikes me as so completely amoral. This was an openly corrupt prosecution literally from day 1. The US should be pursuing criminal charges against Mignini for wrongfully prosecuting and framing an American citizen. Letting this Italian rogue prosecutor, and his wide cast of supporting henchman, get away with his intentionally stealing Knox’s freedom for his own private purposes, sets a very bad precedent. This prosecutor, the tabloids, and the industry of hate surrounding this case, all need to be held criminally liable for their depraved conduct. The European court of human rights needs to step in, and the US should be filing a request to intervene on behalf of Knox, rather than contemplating any extradition.

  • Questions also have been raised about whether the State Department might conduct a review of the evidence and ultimately decide it doesn’t support extradition. The treaty says the country requesting extradition shall provide a summary of the facts and evidence in the case that establish “a reasonable basis to believe that the person sought committed the offense.”

    But Christopher Jenks, a former Army attorney who served as a State Department legal adviser and now teaches at Southern Methodist University’s law school, said that’s a low bar, and that there’s “no reason why Italy wouldn’t be able to put together a sufficient extradition request.”

    He also noted that although any request would wind up before a U.S. federal judge, the court’s role would largely be to ensure the paperwork is in order and that basic requirements are met.

    “She’s not going to be able to relitigate ‘did she do it’ in a federal court,” he said. “Your chances of anything coming of that are slim to none.”

    http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/amanda-knox-and-extradition-more-likely-than-you-might-think/

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